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Old 03-04-2009, 02:34 PM   #1
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Default "fluke victories"

Ive heard this word several times regarding a victory, or a loss, or a player not performing well on a certain stage...etc. etc..


Im sorry, but if you cant swallow the fact that a victory is a victory, and a loss is a loss, and your player sometimes doesnt perform up to par, then you need to quit watching sports.

Im tired of these whole "well they lost to _____ but it was a fluke"



NO. YOUR TEAM WAS OUTPLAYED, AND THEY LOST.


Thats pretty much IT.
Accept that, and move on with your life.


A fluke? Are you kidding me?
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Old 03-04-2009, 02:37 PM   #2
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Every time a team beats the Lakers its a fluke.
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Old 03-04-2009, 02:39 PM   #3
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Do Stern conspiracies count in this thread too?
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Old 03-04-2009, 02:40 PM   #4
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Default Re: "fluke victories"

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Ive heard this word several times regarding a victory, or a loss, or a player not performing well on a certain stage...etc. etc..


Im sorry, but if you cant swallow the fact that a victory is a victory, and a loss is a loss, and your player sometimes doesnt perform up to par, then you need to quit watching sports.

Im tired of these whole "well they lost to _____ but it was a fluke"



NO. YOUR TEAM WAS OUTPLAYED, AND THEY LOST.


Thats pretty much IT.
Accept that, and move on with your life.


A fluke? Are you kidding me?

What about extenuating circumstances beyond the players control...

IE:

-Hard (flagarant-1 type) foul to the star player who may or may not play bad afterward, and leads to a loss

-Referees gambling on the game, that lead to a fixed loss

-Opposing team allowing 6 players on the court at once, that screw with the players focus, that could potentially lead to a loss

-Scorers table errors that have players in foul trouble or fouled out, that could potentially lead to a loss


Explain, please. Or are you still going to put it in the category?
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Old 03-04-2009, 02:40 PM   #5
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Default Re: "fluke victories"

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Ive heard this word several times regarding a victory, or a loss, or a player not performing well on a certain stage...etc. etc..


Im sorry, but if you cant swallow the fact that a victory is a victory, and a loss is a loss, and your player sometimes doesnt perform up to par, then you need to quit watching sports.

Im tired of these whole "well they lost to _____ but it was a fluke"



NO. YOUR TEAM WAS OUTPLAYED, AND THEY LOST.


Thats pretty much IT.
Accept that, and move on with your life.


A fluke? Are you kidding me?

except that there are those rare nights when freakish things happen--like an entire (good) team running cold for 48 minutes against mediocre defense. layups rolling out, snarfed dunks, jumpers catching bad bounce after bad bounce, rebounds consistently landing in the laps of the other team, etc.

they're obviously a lot more rare than people like to admit, but they do happen occasionally.
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Old 03-04-2009, 02:44 PM   #6
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Ive heard this word several times regarding a victory, or a loss, or a player not performing well on a certain stage...etc. etc..


Im sorry, but if you cant swallow the fact that a victory is a victory, and a loss is a loss, and your player sometimes doesnt perform up to par, then you need to quit watching sports.

Im tired of these whole "well they lost to _____ but it was a fluke"



NO. YOUR TEAM WAS OUTPLAYED, AND THEY LOST.


Thats pretty much IT.
Accept that, and move on with your life.


A fluke? Are you kidding me?


Ummm, yes there is. The Clippers just beat the Celtics last week. So by your logic you are saying the Clippers are a better team then the Celtics
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Old 03-04-2009, 02:47 PM   #7
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Ummm, yes there is. The Clippers just beat the Celtics last week. So by your logic you are saying the Clippers are a better team then the Celtics

not the better team...just outplayed that night
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Old 03-04-2009, 02:52 PM   #8
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Only time "fluke victories" should be used is on a freakish shot to win the game. IE: Devin Harris' half courter.

Or Sheed with the 3/4 throw
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Old 03-04-2009, 03:04 PM   #9
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Ummm, yes there is. The Clippers just beat the Celtics last week. So by your logic you are saying the Clippers are a better team then the Celtics


On that night? They absolutely were better than the Celtics.
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Old 03-04-2009, 03:05 PM   #10
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What about extenuating circumstances beyond the players control...

IE:

-Hard (flagarant-1 type) foul to the star player who may or may not play bad afterward, and leads to a loss

-Referees gambling on the game, that lead to a fixed loss

-Opposing team allowing 6 players on the court at once, that screw with the players focus, that could potentially lead to a loss

-Scorers table errors that have players in foul trouble or fouled out, that could potentially lead to a loss


Explain, please. Or are you still going to put it in the category?


Im talking moreso about when someone sits there, and claims that the year when the Pistons dismantled the Lakers in the finals, that it was a "fluke"...or a few of San Antonios championships were "flukes"
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Old 03-04-2009, 03:07 PM   #11
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Only time "fluke victories" should be used is on a freakish shot to win the game. IE: Devin Harris' half courter.

Or Sheed with the 3/4 throw


But if youre in position to win a game, with just a three pointer, is it really that big of a fluke?

You WON that game.
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Old 03-04-2009, 03:08 PM   #12
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But if youre in position to win a game, with just a three pointer, is it really that big of a fluke?

You WON that game.

Stealing the ball and making it from 3/4 court with about 2.2 seconds left, I'd say is a pretty big fluke. Maybe I worded it wrong that it is ok to call it a fluke victory. I guess it's more of a fluke shot leading to a victory.
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Old 03-04-2009, 03:14 PM   #13
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Stealing the ball and making it from 3/4 court with about 2.2 seconds left, I'd say is a pretty big fluke. Maybe I worded it wrong that it is ok to call it a fluke victory. I guess it's more of a fluke shot leading to a victory.
except sheed legitimately could prob. make 1/10 of those shots... that's not that big of fluke.
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Old 03-04-2009, 03:17 PM   #14
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On that night? They absolutely were better than the Celtics.

Ok, so let the Clippers play the Celtics 10 times in a row and who do you think wins 8-9 of the games. Thats right, the Celtics. So that 1 or 2 games would be a FLUKE!

Look up the definition of the word, its:

unlikely chance occurrence, esp. a surprising piece of luck

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Old 03-04-2009, 03:31 PM   #15
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Default Re: "fluke victories"

When you're looking for context of a word, you'll find it no matter what. All applications of the word fluke imply accidental cause. I doubt very much that the Clippers accidentally beat the Celtics, as if their gameplan was to lie down and lose before tip off. I believe in lucky victories, not flukes; no one aims to lose and accidentally wins.
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