Ok. Let's talk about Obama.

[DonDadda59]

^ Let's tackle this one first:




http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/04/politi...missiles-isis/


Obama has been literally the definition of dropping bombs.

There were 24,000 bombs dropped on Afghanistan alone in the first year of the war... to go along with 100,000 troops being thrown into the fire with no real strategy or plan.

The U.S. airstrikes have been targeting ISIS economic infrastructure and providing support for our Muslim/Yazidi/etc allies who are doing the ground work. As a result in 2015 ISIS lost 40% of their territory in Iraq and cut their fighters' salary in half.

This isn't like the Afghanistan war where we literally carried out missions bombing the hell out of caves thinking Bin Laden was there... Only for us to find out he was hiding out in a mansion in Pakistan the whole time.

[Akrazotile]

There were 24,000 bombs dropped on Afghanistan alone in the first year of the war... to go along with 100,000 troops being thrown into the fire with no real strategy or plan.

The U.S. airstrikes have been targeting ISIS economic infrastructure and providing support for our Muslim/Yazidi/etc allies who are doing the ground work. As a result in 2015 ISIS lost 40% of their territory in Iraq and cut their fighters' salary in half.

This isn't like the Afghanistan war where we literally carried out missions bombing the hell out of caves thinking Bin Laden was there... Only for us to find out he was hiding out in a mansion in Pakistan the whole time.

Well coalition deaths in Afghanistan spiked under Obama.




So when Bush went in there it was the wrong place, but under Obama...?

[Akrazotile]

There were 24,000 bombs dropped on Afghanistan alone in the first year of the war... to go along with 100,000 troops being thrown into the fire with no real strategy or plan.

The U.S. airstrikes have been targeting ISIS economic infrastructure and providing support for our Muslim/Yazidi/etc allies who are doing the ground work. As a result in 2015 ISIS lost 40% of their territory in Iraq and cut their fighters' salary in half.

This isn't like the Afghanistan war where we literally carried out missions bombing the hell out of caves thinking Bin Laden was there... Only for us to find out he was hiding out in a mansion in Pakistan the whole time.

Also, do we agree that raining bombs and missiles by both Presidents was perhaps a way to 'justifiably' pump some money into defense manufacturing companies?

That article I posted about Obama's record bomb droppings was basically the Air Force using that fact to call for more funding. Are all those bombs really necessary? Or is it maybe just a cunning way to help out some lobbyists with taxpayer revenue?

[DonDadda59]

So does the left support war, or not support war?

Why don't you conduct a survey and find out?

When Bush was in office, the left wasn't providing lots of qualifiers about varying scenarios.

Yeah, except for when people were asking for proof of the WMDs that we were going to war over.

It was "NO WAR. BUSH IS A WARMONGER. BLOOD 4 OIL. WAR IS NEVER THE ANSWER" etc.

Are Obama's record number of bombings for oil or no? Is he a warmonger or no?

Not at all. Under Obama the U.S. has cut down its foreign oil dependence drastically. We are actually now the #1 producer of oil in the World. That's been one of the main driving factors behind the plummeting oil prices Worldwide.

75% of the Americans killed in Afghanistan lost their lives during Obama's terms.

The Afghanistan and Iraq wars were inherited by Obama. He didn't start them. But again, at the height of those wars there were 270,000+ U.S. troops on the ground... Now there are less than 10,000. In the conflict against ISIS, there are virtually no American troops involved in the conflict.

I just want clarification on whether the left here is WITH war or if they're AGAINST war.

What wars has Obama started?

[Patrick Chewing]

What wars has Obama started?

The ISH wars 2008-Present

[poido123]

And now Russia says the West are rekindling hostilities again.


Nice work Obama, you are really doing a good job of pushing the world into a world war. But I already knew this c.nt was a shady muslim from the beginning.