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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Which team would win? (assume everyone is in their prime)
PG Curry
SG Jordan
SF Durant
PF Bird
C Garnett
Bench: Kobe, Pierce
PG Magic
SG Harden
SF Luka
PF Lebron
C Giannis
Bench: Oscar, Westbrook
So the first group are guys that can seamlessly switch from ball-handling/play-creating roles to the shooter role (and vice versa), while the 2nd group are primarily ball-handlers who remain in that role (centers don't really play either role, but I tried to pick guys that fit closest with these roles)
Which group would be a better team?
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Last edited by 3ball; 11-19-2019 at 11:29 PM.
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New York baby!!
Re: Which team would win? (assume everyone is in their prime)
2nd group, of course. No debate.
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Gif-ted
Re: Which team would win? (assume everyone is in their prime)
Team A is missing Pippen, so B easily.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Which team would win? (assume everyone is in their prime)
Originally Posted by Turbo Slayer
2nd group, of course. No debate.
How would the 2nd group develop chemistry - they're all elite on-ball, but not off-ball
There's only 1 ball
Seems that the 1st unit would have more better chemistry, brand of ball and team
This shows the hole in the ball-handler's game vs the combo guys - this is why the combo guys are better - a wider skillset, not just on-ball
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New York baby!!
Re: Which team would win? (assume everyone is in their prime)
Originally Posted by 3ball
How would the 2nd group develop chemistry - they're all elite on-ball, but not off-ball
There's only 1 ball
Seems that the 1st unit would have more better chemistry, brand of ball and team
This shows the hole in the ball-handler's game vs the combo guys - this is why the combo guys are better - a wider skillset, not just on-ball
sure...ok OP
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Le11th
Re: Which team would win? (assume everyone is in their prime)
Second group is missing alpha scorers like Wade and Kyrie so group one wins ez pz
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Which team would win? (assume everyone is in their prime)
This isn't even fair. You gave Jordan's team the way better bench. Oscar Robertson? You can't just throw in a guy from the 60s and 70s. He'd be terrible compared to all these other guys from the modern era. That idiot Westbrook? Kobe and Kawhi are obviously much much much better. Luka also has no business up with these guys right now. Team A gets Durant and Team B gets a second year player? That's fair.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Which team would win? (assume everyone is in their prime)
Originally Posted by Turbo Slayer
sure...ok OP
The ring count tells the story
The first group has a lot more rings for that exact reason - they can play with any player type, while ball-dominators don't mix
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Which team would win? (assume everyone is in their prime)
Originally Posted by Smoke117
This isn't even fair. You game Jordan's team the way better bench. Oscar Robertson? You can just throw in a guy from the 60s and 70s. That idiot Westbrook? Kobe and Kawhi are obviously much much much better.
Ok just consider the starters
The reality is that 2nd group would suck - 5 ball-dominators on the court at the same time??? That simply wouldn't work
This thread was supposed to show how the ball-dominators are flawed because they lack the skills to play with each other/compliment each other, while the combo guys fit together because they can play on-ball and off
pretty simple really, but oh well, I tried
Like, ball-handlers NEED shooters - that's a weakness - whereas the combo guys can be the shooter themselves and have a teammate handle the rock - they can play off each other and the ball-handler team can't..
we saw it with Wade/Lebron - both guys needed shooters around them, which neither guy provided each other, so they didn't fit well
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Which team would win? (assume everyone is in their prime)
Originally Posted by 3ball
Ok just consider the starters
The reality is that 2nd group would suck - 5 ball-dominators on the court at the same time??? That simply wouldn't work
This thread was supposed to show how the ball-dominators are flawed because they lack the skills to play with each other/compliment each other, while the combo guys fit together because they can play on-ball and off
pretty simple really, but oh well, I tried
Like, ball-handlers NEED shooters - that's a weakness - whereas the combo guys can be the shooter themselves and have a teammate handle the rock - they can play off each other and the ball-handler team can't..
we saw it with Wade/Lebron - both guys needed shooters around them, which neither guy provided each other, so they didn't fit well
No fukking shit. Of course you don't want a bunch of ball dominant guys on one team. When you do match ups like this you are supposed to make the teams somewhat stylistically similar . Obviously Team A would play better when they have more multi faceted players. You make a perfect team vs a flawed team and then ask who would win like ithere's some kind of point to all this. That doesn't make those players necessarily better, but obviously they would play better together.
Last edited by Smoke117; 11-19-2019 at 11:38 PM.
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Embiid > Jokic
Re: Which team would win? (assume everyone is in their prime)
Damn, how much help does Jordan need to beat LeBron
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National High School Star
Re: Which team would win? (assume everyone is in their prime)
Hahaha... Even in making a fantasy line-up Jordan gets a stacked one.
Kobe playing bench? While Harden is starting on the other team.. pretty well balanced...
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Which team would win? (assume everyone is in their prime)
Originally Posted by tanibanana
Hahaha... Even in making a fantasy line-up Jordan gets a stacked one.
Kobe playing bench? While Harden is starting on the other team.. pretty well balanced...
Ignore the bench then, or take MJ off and start Kobe
Regardless, a team of combo guys would always beat a team of ball-handlers because the ball-handlers lack the skill to play with each other (no off-ball)
Basically, combo guys > ball-dominators, which is why they win more...
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Our Lord & Savior
Re: Which team would win? (assume everyone is in their prime)
Originally Posted by bigkingsfan
Team A is missing Pippen, so B easily.
Zing.
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NBA sixth man of the year
Re: Which team would win? (assume everyone is in their prime)
Switch Jordan with Lebron and ask this question again
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