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Old 06-15-2007, 12:51 AM   #46
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Default Re: Kirk Hinrich vs. TJ Ford

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Depends how many 3pta each take. If each of them is taking one or two 3-pointers a game.. those numbers can be thrown down the drain.

Actually they do very few 3's... specially Ford.


Hinrich: 555/1455

Ford: 61/194


Big enough samples for me. There is reason why TJ takes so few 3's, he just doesn't have the range.
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Old 06-15-2007, 01:04 AM   #47
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Hinrich: 555/1455

Ford: 61/194


Big enough samples for me. There is reason why TJ takes so few 3's, he just doesn't have the range.

That further solidifies my case.. As I said earlier... Hinrich does shoot the 3 better.. but that doesn't necessarily make him a better overall shooter than Ford... who shoots as good a percentage as Hinrich from the field.

Say.. if Ford took 20 shots a game.. 19 of them would be within the 3-point line.. and he'd bank in 44% of them... total of 17 points.

And if Hinrich took 20 shots in some game.. 13 of them would be from the within 3-point line at 45%.. and 7 of them from the beyond the arc. whihc would mean 18.5 points.

So yeah.. as you see it's not exactly a clear shooting advantage. It would .. if TJ did shoot a whole lot of 3's.. or just about as many as Hinrich did.

Dwayne Wade shoots only 25% from the 3-point line.. but so what? It's not a factor..s ince he doesn't really take al those 3-pointers. I'm sure Walker, Payton, Williams, are all better 3-point shooters in teh team.. but that doesn't make anyone of them as being better than Wade as far as overall shooting abilities go.

P.S. some homer's gonna come along and blast me for "apparantly comparing" Wade to Ford or Hinrich.. or something like that. Please read back the whoel post.. and understand teh whoel Wade part in the full context of the whole post.

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Old 06-15-2007, 03:08 AM   #48
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Old 06-15-2007, 12:37 PM   #49
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btw.. whatever happend to all the Ford vs Calderon comparisons by the Raptor homers... Imagoine Calderon being to HInrich.. how laughable would that be..
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Old 06-15-2007, 01:28 PM   #50
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Hinrich everyday anyday
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Old 06-15-2007, 03:32 PM   #51
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Hinrich, no question. Ford looks like a little goblin.

That's excellent logic. By that reasoning Sam Cassell's the worst PG in the league.
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Old 06-15-2007, 05:03 PM   #52
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Hinrich everyday anyday

Bulls and Raptors fans need not apply for obvious reasons.
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Old 06-15-2007, 05:32 PM   #53
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Hinrich and it really isn't much of a debate, unless you're a Toronto Raptor fan.
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Old 06-15-2007, 05:35 PM   #54
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Hinrich and it really isn't much of a debate, unless you're a Toronto Raptor fan.

I agree that Hinrich is better.

However in a couple years when Ford hopefully has better control of his game, he'll be clearly the better pg. The dude has way too much talent and has only shown the will to get better (as can be seen on the court).

Plus, playing with two big time big men for the next decade will make him look better than Hinrich and maybe better than what he really is.
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Old 06-15-2007, 05:38 PM   #55
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Ford has all the skills necessary, I agree.

He may finish as a better point guard, per se, but I doubt if he'll end up a better player. Kirk Hinrich, right now, is a leader, a very good point guard, and an All-NBA caliber defender. People forget he's the only one that even slowed down D-Whistle in last year's playoffs. Obviously we can't predict the future, but I can't see Ford being a piece that a championship team wants instead of Hinrich.
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