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Old 11-01-2017, 04:48 PM   #166
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I love the smell of perjury in the morning. You're going down, you racist little shit.

and Sessions had already redone the lie three times prior to saying that. But his indictment would have to be the last, if he does get indicted, because of his important job. So it might be three and then his last one later on depending on how many guilty pleas he gets. The only reason he doesn't get indicted is because he doesn't lead to better information.
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Old 11-01-2017, 05:38 PM   #167
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and Sessions had already redone the lie three times prior to saying that. But his indictment would have to be the last, if he does get indicted, because of his important job. So it might be three and then his last one later on depending on how many guilty pleas he gets. The only reason he doesn't get indicted is because he doesn't lead to better information.

Agreed, I think Mueller wants to eat away at the edges first before getting to the center. At minimum, Sessions is in his crosshairs now. No question.

On a sidenote, Trump mental state is deteriorating at an alarming rate - the Russian scandal is clearly taking a toll on his three remaining brain cells:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUHE0_yc8os

Old age + dementia + stress + being a natural born idiot = Trump can't even read a simple prepared statement without butchering the living shit out of it.
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Old 11-01-2017, 06:18 PM   #168
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Just gonna leave this here for the Trumptards who still believe this Mueller investigation is a nothing burger
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“YOU CAN’T GO ANY LOWER”: INSIDE THE WEST WING, TRUMP IS APOPLECTIC AS ALLIES FEAR IMPEACHMENT
After Monday’s indictments, the president blamed Jared Kushner in a call to Steve Bannon, while others are urging him to take off the gloves with Robert Mueller.

BY GABRIEL SHERMAN
NOVEMBER 1, 2017 1:08 PM

Until now, Robert Mueller has haunted Donald Trump’s White House as a hovering, mostly unseen menace. But by securing indictments of Paul Manafort and Rick Gates, and a surprise guilty plea from foreign policy adviser George Papadopoulos, Mueller announced loudly that the Russia investigation poses an existential threat to the president. “Here’s what Manafort’s indictment tells me: Mueller is going to go over every financial dealing of Jared Kushner and the Trump Organization,” said former Trump campaign aide Sam Nunberg. “Trump is at 33 percent in Gallup. You can’t go any lower. He’s ****ed.”

The first charges in the Mueller probe have kindled talk of what the endgame for Trump looks like, according to conversations with a half-dozen advisers and friends of the president. For the first time since the investigation began, the prospect of impeachment is being considered as a realistic outcome and not just a liberal fever dream. According to a source, advisers in the West Wing are on edge and doing whatever they can not to be ensnared. One person close to Dina Powell and Gary Cohn said they’re making sure to leave rooms if the subject of Russia comes up.

The consensus among the advisers I spoke to is that Trump faces few good options to thwart Mueller. For one, firing Mueller would cross a red line, analogous to Nixon’s firing of Archibald Cox during Watergate, pushing establishment Republicans to entertain the possibility of impeachment. “His options are limited, and his instinct is to come out swinging, which won’t help things,” said a prominent Republican close to the White House.

Trump, meanwhile, has reacted to the deteriorating situation by lashing out on Twitter and venting in private to friends. He’s frustrated that the investigation seems to have no end in sight. “Trump wants to be critical of Mueller,” one person who’s been briefed on Trump’s thinking says. “He thinks it’s unfair criticism. Clinton hasn’t gotten anything like this. And what about Tony Podesta? Trump is like, When is that going to end?” According to two sources, Trump has complained to advisers about his legal team for letting the Mueller probe progress this far. Speaking to Steve Bannon on Tuesday, Trump blamed Jared Kushner for his role in decisions, specifically the firings of Mike Flynn and James Comey, that led to Mueller’s appointment, according to a source briefed on the call. When Roger Stone recently told Trump that Kushner was giving him bad political advice, Trump agreed, according to someone familiar with the conversation. “Jared is the worst political adviser in the White House in modern history,” Nunberg said. “I’m only saying publicly what everyone says behind the scenes at Fox News, in conservative media, and the Senate and Congress.” (The White House didn’t respond to a request for comment by deadline.)


As Mueller moves to interview West Wing aides in the coming days, advisers are lobbying for Trump to consider a range of stratagems to neutralize Mueller, from conciliation to a declaration of all-out war. One Republican explained Trump’s best chance for survival is to get his poll numbers up. Trump’s lawyer Ty Cobb has been advocating the view that playing ball will lead to a quick resolution (Cobb did not respond to a request for comment). But these soft-power approaches are being criticized by Trump allies including Steve Bannon and Roger Stone, who both believe establishment Republicans are waiting for a chance to impeach Trump. “The establishment has proven time and time again they will **** Trump over,” a Bannon ally told me.

In a series of phone calls with Trump on Monday and Tuesday, Bannon told the president to shake up the legal team by installing an aggressive lawyer above Cobb, according to two sources briefed on the call. Bannon has also discussed ways to pressure Congress to defund Mueller’s investigation or limit its scope. “Mueller shouldn’t be allowed to be a clean shot on goal,” a Bannon confidant told me. “He must be contested and checked. Right now he has unchecked power.”

Bannon’s sense of urgency is being fueled by his belief that Trump’s hold on power is slipping. The collapse of Obamacare repeal, and the dimming chances that tax reform will pass soon—many Trump allies are deeply pessimistic about its prospects—have created the political climate for establishment Republicans to turn on Trump. Two weeks ago, according to a source, Bannon did a spitball analysis of the Cabinet to see which members would remain loyal to Trump in the event the 25th Amendment were invoked, thereby triggering a vote to remove the president from office. Bannon recently told people he’s not sure if Trump would survive such a vote. “One thing Steve wants Trump to do is take this more seriously,” the Bannon confidant told me. “Stop joking around. Stop tweeting.”

Roger Stone believes defunding Mueller isn’t enough. Instead, Stone wants Trump to call for a special prosecutor to investigate Hillary Clinton’s role in approving the controversial Uranium One deal that’s been a locus of rightwing hysteria (the transaction involved a Russian state-owned energy firm acquiring a Canadian mining company that controlled a large subset of the uranium in the United States). It’s a bit of a bank shot, but as Stone described it, a special prosecutor looking into Uranium One would also have to investigate the F.B.I.’s role in approving the deal, thereby making Mueller—who was in charge of the bureau at the time—a target. Stone’s choice for a special prosecutor: Rudy Giuliani law colleague Marc Mukasey or Fox News pundit Andrew Napolitano. “You would immediately have to inform Mueller, Comey, and [Deputy Attorney General] Rod Rosenstein that they are under federal investigation,” Stone said. “Trump can’t afford to fire Mueller politically. But this pushes him aside.”

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017...ar-impeachment

They make a good point, if Trump could get his poll numbers up, at least close to 50%, it makes it more difficult to impeach him, even if collusion or any other crime (short of murder) is proven. But being that Trump is incapable of acting presidential, and his policies are opossed by a majority of Americans, that ain't gonna happen

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Old 11-01-2017, 06:34 PM   #169
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Agreed, I think Mueller wants to eat away at the edges first before getting to the center. At minimum, Sessions is in his crosshairs now. No question.

On a sidenote, Trump mental state is deteriorating at an alarming rate - the Russian scandal is clearly taking a toll on his three remaining brain cells:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUHE0_yc8os

Old age + dementia + stress + being a natural born idiot = Trump can't even read a simple prepared statement without butchering the living shit out of it.
25th amendment is an option to "save face"

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Old 11-01-2017, 07:31 PM   #170
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Screw it, take down the whole system Mueller. Take down Trump, take down Podesta, take down Ryan, take down Hillary, bring to light Russia, take down Stone, take down Bannon, take anyone involved in any sort of law breaking, in form or substance, down. Truth matters more than anything - f*cking burn it all down if need be. Truth, honesty -- make them the pillars of democracy.

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Old 06-15-2018, 01:11 PM   #171
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Bail revoked and sent to jail for witness tampering. No more cozy house arrest
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Old 06-15-2018, 01:21 PM   #172
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snitching season began with papa dop.

snitching playoffs started with flynn and gates.

now the real snitching finals begins with big paulie manafort and mickey cohen.

is vegas taking any action on who'll flip first?

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Old 06-15-2018, 02:54 PM   #173
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So he's not going to jail for blatant Russian collusion??

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Old 06-15-2018, 03:09 PM   #174
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So he's not going to jail for blatant Russian collusion??

Trial hasn't started yet genius. He just added another indictment to his 20+ previous ones while on bail
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Old 06-15-2018, 04:29 PM   #175
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the truth you will never hear in the fake news


Trump more popular than Obama, JFK, Reagan
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Old 06-15-2018, 04:36 PM   #176
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the truth you will never hear in the fake news


Trump more popular than Obama, JFK, Reagan
You lie and obfuscate as well as Trump.

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support among his backers is stronger than it was for nearly every recent president.


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President George W. Bush was more popular than Trump among his base

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