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09-15-2012, 03:02 PM
#121
Local High School Star
Re: #34 NBA Player Of All-Time According to InsideHoops
Originally Posted by Coffee Black
I agree with you on Hayes. Admittedly I don't know that much about him as I was not around to watch the NBA at that time, but general notion I picked up about when reading about the 70s is that he was a great individual player but definitely not a good team mate. He was not the type of person you would have leading your team.
And on the same not, I would definitely not be surprised if McAdoo gets overrated over guys like McHale, Unseld, Cunningham, and more. It's going to be the same ISH voters that look at his stats, and say some stuff about peak or prime (not that any of that makes sense or matters). They are going to overlook the fact, after those first few years, teams w realized what type of player he was and did not want to take him as their leader. He was not considered a "winner". He got shopped around and ended up as role player on the Lakers in the 80s. I mean there is a reason he got left out of the NBA top 50 and took so long to get into the Hall of Fame.
I thoroughly agree, especially with the part in bold.
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09-15-2012, 03:03 PM
#122
3-time NBA All-Star
Re: #34 NBA Player Of All-Time According to InsideHoops
Originally Posted by WockaVodka
What does that have to do with anything? This is an ISH vote, not a Slam vote. What would be the point of this if you are just trying to replicate the slam?
Gasol's vote should count, he was better than Rodman. Gasol was 62nd in the RealGM Top 100 while Rodman was 64th.
I don't care if the vote counts. However, how many years would you call Gasoline a top 5 player in the l. Guy only made 4 all star teams. There is just no logical way to put him over a guy like Steve Nash or Dwight Howard.
Last edited by IGOTGAME; 09-15-2012 at 03:07 PM.
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09-15-2012, 03:10 PM
#123
Death Before Dishonor
Re: #34 NBA Player Of All-Time According to InsideHoops
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09-15-2012, 03:10 PM
#124
Re: #34 NBA Player Of All-Time According to InsideHoops
If the OP is just going to count which votes fit his own personal agenda then we all mind as well just abandon these rankings all together because its turned into a joke.
Originally Posted by IGOTGAME
I don't care if the vote counts. However, how many years would you call Gasoline a top 5 player in the l. Guy only made 4 all star teams. There is just no logical way to put him over a guy like Steve Nash or Dwight Howard.
He was the best bigman in the league along with Dwight and Dirk during the Lakers final runs.
He also led a team to a title, something Nash or Dwight failed to do and something that should be valued quite highly when factoring in the all-time greats.
Last edited by MiamiThrice; 09-15-2012 at 03:13 PM.
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09-15-2012, 03:13 PM
#125
NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: #34 NBA Player Of All-Time According to InsideHoops
lol @ Drexler getting votes.
This is between Dave Cowens and Steve Nash. I vote for Nash.
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09-15-2012, 03:15 PM
#126
Re: #34 NBA Player Of All-Time According to InsideHoops
Actually yeah, I change my vote to Steve Nash. I actually do have Nash ranked above Drexler in my all-time list. I forgot that this site doesn't love Nash as much as others do.
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09-15-2012, 03:16 PM
#127
NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: #34 NBA Player Of All-Time According to InsideHoops
Also people need to do some more research on Elvin Hayes and not just look at his stats. He shouldn't be getting votes either. Hayes was a horrible teammate, inefficient scorer, & a choker.
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09-15-2012, 03:20 PM
#128
3-time NBA All-Star
Re: #34 NBA Player Of All-Time According to InsideHoops
Originally Posted by MiamiThrice
If the OP is just going to count which votes fit his own personal agenda then we all mind as well just abandon these rankings all together because its turned into a joke.
He was the best bigman in the league along with Dwight and Dirk during the Lakers final runs.
He also led a team to a title, something Nash or Dwight failed to do and something that should be valued quite highly when factoring in the all-time greats.
OK. You won't answer the question. This isn't a single season award. Not even going to argue of ur take on that season.
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09-15-2012, 03:23 PM
#129
Re: #34 NBA Player Of All-Time According to InsideHoops
Originally Posted by IGOTGAME
OK. You won't answer the question. This isn't a single season award. Not even going to argue of ur take on that season.
You mean like how no Kobe balllicker has counter argued any of my facts/statistics that I laid out throughout this thread?
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09-15-2012, 03:26 PM
#130
Death Before Dishonor
Re: #34 NBA Player Of All-Time According to InsideHoops
Originally Posted by 1987_Lakers
Also people need to do some more research on Elvin Hayes and not just look at his stats. He shouldn't be getting votes either. Hayes was a horrible teammate, inefficient scorer, & a choker.
who do u want us to vote for then?
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09-15-2012, 03:28 PM
#131
3-time NBA All-Star
Re: #34 NBA Player Of All-Time According to InsideHoops
Originally Posted by MiamiThrice
You mean like how no Kobe balllicker has counter argued any of my facts/statistics that I laid out throughout this thread?
Not worth the time bro. I sincerely hope you are trolling and not this stupid.
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09-15-2012, 03:52 PM
#132
Not airballing my layups anymore
Re: #34 NBA Player Of All-Time According to InsideHoops
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09-15-2012, 04:52 PM
#133
Kobe Apostle
Re: #34 NBA Player Of All-Time According to InsideHoops
Current Results
6- Clyde Drexler
5- Elvin Hayes
5- Steve Nash
4- Dave Cowens
4- Dolph Schayes
3- Bill Walton
2- Nate Thurmond
1- Paul Pierce
1- Bob McAdoo
1- George Gervin
1- Pete Maravich
1- Allen Iverson
1- Kevin McHale
1- Dennis Rodman
1- Gary Payton
Last edited by Deuce Bigalow; 09-15-2012 at 05:42 PM.
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09-15-2012, 04:55 PM
#134
Local High School Star
Re: #34 NBA Player Of All-Time According to InsideHoops
Why does Hayes have more votes than Cowens? And suprised nobody mentioned Sam Jones with all the other players being voted for.
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09-15-2012, 05:01 PM
#135
Re: #34 NBA Player Of All-Time According to InsideHoops
Originally Posted by Deuce Bigalow
Current Results
6- Clyde Drexler
5- Elvin Hayes
4- Dave Cowens
4- Dolph Schayes
4- Steve Nash
3- Bill Walton
2- Nate Thurmond
1- Paul Pierce
1- Bob McAdoo
1- George Gervin
1- Pete Maravich
1- Allen Iverson
1- Kevin McHale
1- Dennis Rodman
1- Gary Payton
Again, why is Gasol's votes being ignored but Rodman's counting? Gasol was better than Rodman, yet Rodman's votes count and Gasol's doesn't? You either count them both or take them both out.
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