How F.ucked are the Clippers?

[fpliii]

What about the Glove?

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

If Clipps lose in round 1, Vinny is gone for sure, right?

duh, doc rivers lol

[Graviton]

Lebron is basically a 6'8 PG, he was the one handling facilitating duties for the Olympic team too. Size gives you options midget PGs don't have. You can make passes they can never execute. Lebron especially has the height and wrist strength to make the accurate cross court bullet passes that short PGs would never make against taller athletic defenders.

[Young X]

If they win game 2 they're fine I think.

[SilkkTheShocker]

Good point guys, I mentioned WB mostly because of the defensive liability angle. Even if he does some dumb shit, I'm still a fan.

Bottom like though, unless your PG is gonna be a shooter/complementary player, what's the minimum height you're comfortable with as a featured star? 6'4"?

Ideally you want them to be at least 6'3-6'4. And definitely of a bigger build. I wouldn't have a problem building around Payton either. Like Kidd, he could defend 3 positions. And while not the floor general Kidd is, Payton was much more efficient scorer.

[STATUTORY]

What about the Glove?

I wonder how success payton would be in this no handcheck era with these superstar calls on the perimeter. I'm not saying it's impossible to win with a undersized "superstar" pg, it's just there's a inequity between their contribution to championship basketball and contract value. in a cap constrained league it's all about proper allocation of resources, I think a guy like Patrick Beverley, while somewhat overrated, is very valuable on per dollar basis especially since his success will never come at the expense of the other premiere perimeter player on your team.

Which you can't say about guys like westbrook.

I dont' think it's all about length tho, I think my initial post might have implied that

[SacJB Shady]

They'll bounce back. Said before the series started Clippers in 6. I'm sticking with it.

Dream on budd. Warriors in 4.

[SilkkTheShocker]

I wonder how success payton would be in this no handcheck era with these superstar calls on the perimeter. I'm not saying it's impossible to win with a undersized "superstar" pg, it's just there's a inequity between their contribution to championship basketball and contract value. in a cap constrained league it's all about proper allocation of resources, I think a guy like Patrick Beverley, while somewhat overrated, is very valuable on per dollar basis especially since his success will never come at the expense of the other premiere perimeter player on your team.

Which you can't say about guys like westbrook.

Payton would still be a star. Handcheck rules or not, their are only a few point guards in this league that play good defense. Beverly, Rondo when he wants to, etc. He wouldn't be a DPOY in this era, but still the best.

[miggyme1]

2011 ECF Game 1

Chicago Bulls vs. Miami Heat.

Bulls won Game 1.... then Miami won 4 games after that. BOOM! series ended and D-Rose went home.

I still got Clippers in 6

The clippers aint the bulls and the warriors aint the heat......warriors in 4. BOOM

[Marlo_Stanfield]

Payton would still be a star. Handcheck rules or not, their are only a few point guards in this league that play good defense. Beverly, Rondo when he wants to, etc. He wouldn't be a DPOY in this era, but still the best.

just stop

[LoneyROY7]

"Y'all ni**as trippin."

#wegood

[Bandito]

Agreed. All your PG needs to do is shoot 3s and not turn the ball over. PG would be the last position I would focus on building a team through.

What is your most important position? The second one?

[Straight_Ballin]

midgets cant get you to the promise land

It took an stacked Lakers team to stop AI.
A 6'1 165 lb midget won MVP and dominated the league.

[LoneyROY7]

[senelcoolidge]

With Griffin limited to only 19 minutes. He doesn't just score. But he helps space the floor out for CP3. Without him CP3 didn't have the spacing so he was defended better. Some of those fouls on Griffin were bogus..that pretty much lost that game for them. Clippers in 6 games.