05 playoffs exposed SNAQ's real impact on the Heat

[Akhenaten]

i know you're an angry individual, and will likely rage when reading this article. but try to tame yourself. nobody wants to see another poster displeased over basketball #facts

we're pulling for you, boss

Article confirms what I said, Brown wised up in the second half apparently when he realized Ben could take care of him.

We're talking a half of ONE game, watch the 04 Finals, they played him the same way they did in 05 (and Shaw was a better player in 04). I hope you didn't believe that I was saying they NEVER doubled him not one single time?

Shaq had 1 ast that series and Shaq is a great passer out the post, that tells you all you need to know about the frequency and intensity with which they doubled him in that series.

[mehyaM24]

Article confirms what I said, Brown wised up in the second half apparently when he realized Ben could take care of him.

We're talking a half of ONE game, watch the 04 Finals, they played him the same way they did in 05 (and Shaw was a better player in 04). I hope you didn't believe that I was saying they NEVER doubled him not one single time?

Shaq had 1 ast that series and Shaq is a great passer out the post, that tells you all you need to know about the frequency and intensity with which they doubled him in that series.

the article never stated anything about playing iso in the second half.

we all know you didn't read it. why u frontin, brah?

i have the 2006 finals on tape, and avery johnson was sending double teams on shaq for the first 4 games of that series, until he realized wade was beating them (easy looks), but by then, it was already over. the heat gained momentum and never looked back.

#FACTS

[HiphopRelated]

dont forget that shaq drew all the double teams, was the teams best defender and rebounder. his impact goes well beyond his ppg output.

you remove shaq in 2005, and the heat probably dont even make the playoffs.

They swept the Wizards with Shaq in a suit

[Cali Syndicate]

So, you're saying that the Heat offesnive production significantly dropped in the game their most dynamic and productive offensive player wasn't playing? That's very insightful.

Look at Heat roster, who exactly on that team is even remotely capable of stepping up to fill that void? Outside of shaq and Wade, they're all role players. Against a disciplined defensive team like the Pistons, you need a player that can shift a defense and knock them off balance. It's gonna take more than a simple pass out a double team and a swing pass here and there to shift the Pistons defense for these role players to see open opportunities. Unless that swing pass is to a player like Wade who has the ability to continue attacking and breaking the balance of the defense, most the shots are going to be heavily contested.

[Akhenaten]

It's gonna take more than a simple pass out a double team and a swing pass here and there to shift the Pistons defense for these role players to see open opportunities.

Not according to Mehya24 Shaq's post dominance and double team drawing ability was responsible for Wade and his teammates getting "easy looks".

Without 05 Shaq, Wade is reduced to BJ Armstrong level .

[Akhenaten]

They swept the Wizards with Shaq in a suit

Mehya don't care about reality, his feelings and theories are what really matters

[Eric Cartman]

Gotta agree with the OP here. Well said.

[AirFederer]

OP speaks the truth

[ArbitraryWater]

OP you probably thought real hard about pressing that "Submit Reply" button. Should have thought even harder and not do it.

[mehyaM24]

OP you probably thought real hard about pressing that "Submit Reply" button. Should have thought even harder and not do it.

he had no rebuttal lol

verbatim of nba head coaches in 2005, shaq's impact on the heat = astronomical

[PJR]

i have the 2006 finals on tape, and avery johnson was sending double teams on shaq for the first 4 games of that series, until he realized wade was beating them (easy looks), but by then, it was already over. the heat gained momentum and never looked back.

#FACTS

Here are the #facts,

In the 2006 Finals, Shaq averaged 13.7 points a game, and was outscored by Antoine Walker. He was also benched by Riley in the deciding game 6, down the stretch for Zo (who had a far bigger impact on the game).

Shaq sucked in the Finals. And had it not been for D.Wade's domination, they would've been swept. The end.

[mehyaM24]

Here are the #facts,

In the 2006 Finals, Shaq averaged 13.7 points a game, and was outscored by Antoine Walker. He was also benched by Riley in the deciding game 6, down the stretch for Zo (who had a far bigger impact on the game).

Shaq sucked in the Finals. And had it not been for D.Wade's domination, they would've been swept. The end.

again,shaq's impact went beyond his points.

shaq was top 2-3 in every major statistical category per 48 minutes (#1 in TRB%, #1 in EFG%, #2 in BLK%).

for further persepctive, read more from dallas' headcoach and wade himself

Everything starts with dealing with Shaquille," Dallas coach Avery Johnson says.

O'Neal has not only played smartly and efficiently but at times has been as dominant as ever. Despite double-teams, sometimes when he doesn't have the ball, he is averaging 14.6 points, 9.8 rebounds and 3.2 assists and shooting 66.7%.

"Everyone knows that he's 34 years old and he's not the young Shaq-be-nimble, Shaq-be-quick, but we know we wouldn't be at this point without him,"Wade says. "He's the biggest part of what we have here in Miami."

casual fans like yourself need to quit posting and just listen. let the REAL knowledgeable posters like myself educate you.

[SouBeachTalents]

again,shaq's impact went beyond his points.

shaq was top 2-3 in every major statistical category per 48 minutes (#1 in TRB%, #1 in EFG%, #2 in BLK%).

for further persepctive, read more from dallas' headcoach and wade himself



casual fans like yourself need to quit posting and just listen. let the REAL knowledgeable posters like myself educate you.

So you truly believe Shaq was more valuable in the '06 Finals than Wade?

[mehyaM24]

So you truly believe Shaq was more valuable in the '06 Finals than Wade?

for all of the finals? about equal. wade got a lot of his numbers because of shaq - and casual fans fail to grasp this.

[PJR]

again,shaq's impact went beyond his points.

That's nice. And while that is true, You don't get credit for being "The guy", being an ineffective decoy.


And no one is saying Shaq wasn't an integral piece. But the Heat won the 2006 Title off primarily Dwyane Wade's dominance. 33 year old Shaq was sidekick status.

#Facts