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Old 11-09-2014, 02:28 PM   #61
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it's the truth - he is a garbage man - all his buckets are either putbacks, transition, or play-finishing (open jumpers or at-rim looks - BOTH set up by guards).

but in previous eras, there weren't as many garbage buckets available because the floor wasn't spaced by 3-pointers and packing the paint was standard because there was no defensive 3 seconds - this is what a REAL packed paint looks like:





davis would not be nearly as effective in a game where defenses packed the paint and there was no spacing - these things reduce the number of garbage buckets available and would force him to create his own shot in order to score a material amount.

i can't think of one garbage man from previous eras that could average 20 ppg... that's only possible today.

you dont understand the 3 seconds rule vs illegal defense. Paint is more packed today. 3 seconds rule gives you 3 MORE seconds to pack the paint then was available before.
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Old 11-09-2014, 02:38 PM   #62
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Paint is more packed today.
this is easy for people to say so they feel better, but they can never SHOW it.

you can't show a packed paint to back up what you are saying - whereas i can easily.
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Old 11-09-2014, 02:51 PM   #63
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this is easy for people to say so they feel better, but they can never SHOW it.

you can't show a packed paint to back up what you are saying - whereas i can easily.

Im just talking about the rules. Something you have proved that you dont understand. Teams are running different offenses and takin advantage of different lineups. But the rules today allow for people to break the previous rules for 3 seconds in the paint. The reason the paint is packed in that gif is bc the players on offense are all poorly spaced. But if you ran a spread offense, no one would be able to leave their man because of the illegal defense rules.

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Old 11-09-2014, 02:53 PM   #64
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Im just talking about the rules. Something you have proved that you dont understand.
uh... whatever dude... you can't show me today's paints are packed, whereas it's easy for me to show that they were in previous eras, so your wishful thinking has no basis in reality.

the shots the defense guarded the most back then were the VERY shots davis gets the most of - mid-range jumpshots and at-rim garbage.

davis would have it tougher back in the day, because there would be no 3-point shooters spreading the floor for him, and the OLD defensive 3 seconds rule allowed players to camp in the paint, explained below.
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Old 11-09-2014, 03:15 PM   #65
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Im just talking about the rules. Something you have proved that you dont undersutand.



in this clip, Klay Thompson's dad (#43 in the middle of lane) would get a tech after 3 seconds in today's game because his man is out of "armslength".... but back then, he was legal because his man was "adjacent to the paint", which is all that was required at the time - notice how there is no need for Thompson to tippy-toe in and out of the paint.


in previous eras, guys didn't have to worry about tippy-toeing in and out of the lane like today - back then, the 3 seconds rule was simple: as long as their man was "adjacent to the paint", defenders could stay in the lane... so usually, they could camp in the lane for the entire possession because the paint is huge, and "adjacent to the paint" covers a ton of ground... Furthermore, "adjacent to the paint" could mean right next to the paint, a few feet outside the paint, or all the way out to the 3-point line - defenders routinely camped in the paint while their man was behind the 3-point line.

contrastingly, today's rule makes sure defenders can physically touch their man to stay in the lane, by requiring defenders be within "armslength" of an opponent - since players that are outside, or "adjacent to the paint", are out of armslength to defenders inside the paint, players in today's game are not allowed to stay in the lane if their man is outside the paint.
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you dont understand the 3 seconds rule vs illegal defense. Paint is more packed today. 3 seconds rule gives you 3 MORE seconds to pack the paint then was available before.


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