Dan Lebatard: Warriors won't be any more great if they win the series, its a small

[senelcoolidge]

He works for espn and disney that's been deep throating the warriors all season long, what do you expect..the excuses are coming. You have Stephen Ass Smith protecting Draymond and the Warriors at every corner.

[Legends66NBA7]

You're only a great team if you win the championship. Regular season games is what were basing teams on now, really? It's not about what they do when it matters most? You just have to be hot when the chips aren't on the table?

Simply untrue.

[Sarcastic]

Simply untrue.

It kind of is. Which teams are considered great without a ring?

[NBAGOAT]

It kind of is. Which teams are considered great without a ring?

Plenty of teams. 72 Bucks, plenty of Showtime and Celtics teams from the 80's, some 90's teams depending on who you like, 00 Blazers, 02 Kings, and 07 Suns.

[Sarcastic]

Plenty of teams. 72 Bucks, plenty of Showtime and Celtics teams from the 80's, some 90's teams depending on who you like, 00 Blazers, 02 Kings, and 07 Suns.

I think they get labeled as very good, not great. I've never seen them listed ahead of teams that actually won.

[NBAGOAT]

I think they get labeled as very good, not great. I've never seen them listed ahead of teams that actually won.

I've seen people say they were better than some championship teams for all of them. I could definitely see it for some of the weaker title teams for example 85 Celtics over 03 Spurs.

[Legends66NBA7]

I've seen people say they were better than some championship teams for all of them. I could definitely see it for some of the weaker title teams for example 85 Celtics over 03 Spurs.

Good point.

Not only is logic flawed, just think about it for a second...

All championship teams would have never faced a great team on their path to the title. Can anyone honestly believe that ? Maybe in a few cases (I doubt it), sure, but often that is not the case.

[miggyme1]

Shaq and Penny arguably are better. But yes, its not a crazy thing to say. People kinda forget that Stockton's best days were behind him when they faced the Bulls.

shaq and penny never reached their peaks together. if they had of then YES

[guy]

shaq and penny never reached their peaks together. if they had of then YES

It doesn't really matter though when we're comparing them. Non-peak Shaq is still probably better then peak Durant.

[guy]

Exactly.

People act as if they have to be unbeatable, and have to win the championship to be considered an all time great team. They don't, and neither were the 96 Bulls, or any other great 65+ win team.

They are statistically, and going by wins, one of the greatest, if not the greatest team ever.

The year is regular season+playoffs. If we are too assess them as a team you have to take both into account.

Assuming they lose, they have absolutely no argument for greatest team ever, or even one of them.

Statistics don't take into account that not all games are as important as each other. For example, how much are we really supposed to factor in that they blew out Cleveland on the road in some random January game, when they are getting destroyed by OKC right now in really important playoff games that matter? What happens when things are really on the line should matter much more then anything in the regular season.

And if you want to say that this is all happening because Steph is injured or whatever, so what? Part of being a great team is health, even if its due to luck. And part of being a great team is playing well while injured. And who knows, maybe them draining themselves going after the record is what caused this? Well, thats on them. You can't really have it both ways. I'd probably pick a bunch of teams that coasted/rested/worked through chemistry issues throughout the regular season and had a much worse record but still won the title.

They are a great team, arguably better then some championship teams that lucked out due to weaker competition, and they're arguably the greatest team to not win a title. But one of the greatest teams ever? No.

[Overdrive]

Exactly.

People act as if they have to be unbeatable, and have to win the championship to be considered an all time great team. They don't, and neither were the 96 Bulls, or any other great 65+ win team.

They are statistically, and going by wins, one of the greatest, if not the greatest team ever.

What's the greatest of the 3-peat Lakers teams?

[knicksman]

You're only a great team if you win the championship. Regular season games is what were basing teams on now, really? It's not about what they do when it matters most? You just have to be hot when the chips aren't on the table?

So we agree then that bran isnt an all time great

[knicksman]

The year is regular season+playoffs. If we are too assess them as a team you have to take both into account.

Assuming they lose, they have absolutely no argument for greatest team ever, or even one of them.

Statistics don't take into account that not all games are as important as each other. For example, how much are we really supposed to factor in that they blew out Cleveland on the road in some random January game, when they are getting destroyed by OKC right now in really important playoff games that matter? What happens when things are really on the line should matter much more then anything in the regular season.

And if you want to say that this is all happening because Steph is injured or whatever, so what? Part of being a great team is health, even if its due to luck. And part of being a great team is playing well while injured. And who knows, maybe them draining themselves going after the record is what caused this? Well, thats on them. You can't really have it both ways. I'd probably pick a bunch of teams that coasted/rested/worked through chemistry issues throughout the regular season and had a much worse record but still won the title.

They are a great team, arguably better then some championship teams that lucked out due to weaker competition, and they're arguably the greatest team to not win a title. But one of the greatest teams ever? No.

Youre expecting too much from plowking bro. The guy is a bran stan for a reason

[guy]

Lebatard is a condescending moron. I heard his rant earlier. He basically criticized and made fun of everyone who thought and still thinks that their historical regular season record should be downplayed. Well, doesn't it look like they are going to be right that it should be downplayed?

[moongaze]

Plenty of teams. 72 Bucks, plenty of Showtime and Celtics teams from the 80's, some 90's teams depending on who you like, 00 Blazers, 02 Kings, and 07 Suns.

Those are good teams. Greatness is completing the ultimate goal.