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Old 08-10-2009, 03:01 PM   #46
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To be fair, Bulgarians are leaving in huge numbers since they joined the EU, correct? Muslims make up 10-20% of Bulgaria, no? Are these Muslims Bulgarians or Turks?

BTW, I'm Albanian that was born in Macedonia. Kako si?

People started leaving the country ever since we switched to democracy. At the moment muslims make up around 10% of population. Half of them are muslim bulgarians form the mountain and the other half are turks. There are people turning bulgarian muslim against bulgaria and bulgarian government. Turkey's intelligence service is involved. I have nothing against muslims or there religion as long as it doesnt turn radical. But the demographical problem its getting quite serious.

Nice to see Balkan people here. How do you feel about the situation in Kosovo?
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Old 08-10-2009, 03:42 PM   #47
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People started leaving the country ever since we switched to democracy. At the moment muslims make up around 10% of population. Half of them are muslim bulgarians form the mountain and the other half are turks. There are people turning bulgarian muslim against bulgaria and bulgarian government. Turkey's intelligence service is involved. I have nothing against muslims or there religion as long as it doesnt turn radical. But the demographical problem its getting quite serious.

Nice to see Balkan people here. How do you feel about the situation in Kosovo?

Personally I hate when religion interferes with state. It annoys me that some people can not practice their religion without interfering with other people's lives and it annoys me further when religion causes divisions amongst an ethnic group. I do not want to brag, but Albanians, compared to the Former-Yugoslav states, are much more tolerant in this regard. 3 major religions (Islam, Catholicism and Orthodoxy) are found in Albania and I would even say the majority of the people are Atheists/Agnostic. The Serbs, Croats and Bosnians on the other hand all belong to 3 different religions, yet, can not get along even though they share the same language and other cultural traits. Yes nationalism is a bigger cause for this division, but religion plays a big role.

As for Kosova, I support it's independence because independence is the only alternative that is feasible. Albanians 20 years ago only wanted Autonomy and once they were stripped of this right, there were mass protests. To ask the Kosovar people to go back to autonomy is a slap in the face for what they have suffered. Logically speaking, Kosova is well over 90% Albanian, and honestly the Serbs (given their historical record) will never be able to rule the Albanians without a mass deportation or huge assimilation. The major problem is the Kosovar gov't is still new and it's hands are tied behind it's back. They are not able to deal with the Serbian seperatist in the Northern region that refuses to recognize the new government. I understand that they do not want to be ruled by Albanians, but the state they are in is multi-cultural and Serbs have more rights then other minorities in the region. I honestly wish the best for all Kosovars, including Serbs and Albanians.

What are your thoughts about Macedonia? Do you foretell a split up or do you feel the EU will solve all the border problems?
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Old 08-10-2009, 03:58 PM   #48
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Albania is a Moslem country, but I hear that it's far more accepting of different people than say a country like the US is. For instance, Albania is going to be the first Moslem country to legalize Gay Marriage across the country, and not just in one province or state here and there.
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Old 08-10-2009, 05:26 PM   #49
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What are your thoughts about Macedonia? Do you foretell a split up or do you feel the EU will solve all the border problems?
EU will make the problem just deeper if they split Macedonia. Macedonian language is bulgarian slang. They have no history or culture. Im not saying that 100% of macedonians are bulgarian but the percentage goes over 50%. And greek are brining anti-bulgarian feelings through the country i heard. And this has been happening for years ever since the end of balkan war. Most likely things will remain the same and EU will ask them to change their name to please Greece.
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Old 08-10-2009, 05:28 PM   #50
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In certain cities in the UK, infact it might be all major cities now, there aren't allowed to be any Christmas decorations out in the streets due to the large population of Muslims. Which is just f*cking pathetic.

That is just ridiculous. Can you elaborate some? What was happening that caused this?
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Old 08-10-2009, 05:41 PM   #51
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EU will make the problem just deeper if they split Macedonia. Macedonian language is bulgarian slang. They have no history or culture. Im not saying that 100% of macedonians are bulgarian but the percentage goes over 50%. And greek are brining anti-bulgarian feelings through the country i heard. And this has been happening for years ever since the end of balkan war. Most likely things will remain the same and EU will ask them to change their name to please Greece.

It's funny, the Serbs also claim Macedonia and my Serbian friend told me Macedonia is basically "Serbian with a speech impediment." And you also have the Albanians that officially make up 25% of the population but claim to make up to 40%. It's a mess of a country right now lol.

I was more in the lines thinking that joining the EU would solve it's problem. I think many people feel once the borders are opened up to EU countries, there won't be a need for separatist actions from the Bulgarians, Serbs, Albanians and Greeks. It should be interesting to see what happens in 20 years from now.
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Old 08-10-2009, 06:31 PM   #52
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It's funny, the Serbs also claim Macedonia and my Serbian friend told me Macedonia is basically "Serbian with a speech impediment." And you also have the Albanians that officially make up 25% of the population but claim to make up to 40%. It's a mess of a country right now lol.

I was more in the lines thinking that joining the EU would solve it's problem. I think many people feel once the borders are opened up to EU countries, there won't be a need for separatist actions from the Bulgarians, Serbs, Albanians and Greeks. It should be interesting to see what happens in 20 years from now.
We never picked up the guns about the macedonian problem. One things is for sure our language is closer to macedonian than serbian. If everybody join from the balkans join EU(except Turkey) and borderds open whole new mixtures will be created.
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