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Old 06-30-2015, 02:20 AM   #31
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Rock got carried by fcking John cena in his last 2 WM matches lmao, Punk did as well.. Rock was past his prime but if had any technique at all he wouldnt have looked as bad as he did. He is still physically there outside of cardio. Look at some of the other old timers past their prime that could atill carry matches. he was never known for carrying feuds in matches he was like HHH in that respect just a much better talker and personality that trips
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Old 06-30-2015, 03:18 AM   #32
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Rock had an insane peak, but his movie career killed any GOAT talks. Plus, he got out-popped by SCSA damn near every time they squared off as faces. That makes it pretty clear who the king of the Attitude Era was, and it wasn't Rocky.
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Old 06-30-2015, 08:57 AM   #33
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Rock had an insane peak, but his movie career killed any GOAT talks. Plus, he got out-popped by SCSA damn near every time they squared off as faces. That makes it pretty clear who the king of the Attitude Era was, and it wasn't Rocky.
Austin was king from 98-00. Rocky owned 00-01 though, and then the next couple years after that.
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Old 06-30-2015, 09:00 AM   #34
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Rock got carried by fcking John cena in his last 2 WM matches lmao, Punk did as well.. Rock was past his prime but if had any technique at all he wouldnt have looked as bad as he did. He is still physically there outside of cardio. Look at some of the other old timers past their prime that could atill carry matches. he was never known for carrying feuds in matches he was like HHH in that respect just a much better talker and personality that trips

He hadn't wrestled in what, like 7 years? What a stupid argument.
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Old 06-30-2015, 09:03 AM   #35
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Goldberg >>>>>>>
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Old 06-30-2015, 09:20 AM   #36
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Haystacks Calhoun >>>>>>>
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Old 06-30-2015, 09:34 AM   #37
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Goldberg was so over. They were even chanting his name into the mics backstage. You could hear it through the speakers.
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Old 06-30-2015, 09:43 AM   #38
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The Rock was a good worker. If you put him in there with somebody good he'd usually have a good match. That's more than you can say about a lot of guys. He got the job done.

I think the problem with when he came back was not only being rusty. His build was totally different. In his prime he was never a big guy, when he came back he was massive but he still tried to wrestle his old style which was fast paced, athletic stuff. He just wasn't built for that anymore and got gassed. He should have switched it up and worked slower but whatever.
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Old 06-30-2015, 09:59 AM   #39
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People forget that the fans hated and rejected the Rock at first. It took him several years to find a gimmick that got him over.

Goldberg got over as an unknown during his very first match, and never slowed down. Not many wrestlers in history can claim that.

Also, although Goldberg wasn't Bret Hart or Kurt Angle in the ring, his power and intensity was among the most impressive of all time.
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Old 06-30-2015, 10:06 AM   #40
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Who forgets that? Also no, it took The Rock like a year to get over. Goldberg definitely slowed down and fizzled out.
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Old 06-30-2015, 10:27 AM   #41
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Except he couldn't wrestle...or he never showed any wrestling skill. You can't be anywhere close to the GOAT if you can't even put on good matches consistently. You want to say goat star...okay, but goat wrestler? You actually have to have some kind of technical ability in the ring to be that. Austin for instance was always very good in the ring up until his knees started wearing and more importantly Owen Hart ****ed up his neck. He hurt the neck before the height of his popularity (first title run and mcmahon angle) so what most people remember is the brawling, stomping Austin. You think Bret Hart would have wanted to work with Austin if that's all he could do? The point is, maybe it is because of when he got big, but The Rock never actually had to do any real wrestling out there. I honestly can't think of one match I've seen of his where I was actually impressed. I can think of a bunch off the top of my head for guys like HBK, Hart and Jericho though. Even a few for Austin as it goes. The Rock was basically like his eras Hulk Hogan. Fans loved him, but he didn't do anything interesting in the ring.

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Old 06-30-2015, 10:27 AM   #42
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So Rock dug himself out of that crappy Maivia babyface gimmick and became the most electrifying man in sports entertainment. Wow! Legendary!!! The Great One!

Goldberg got pushed to the moon by doing nothing other than 3-minute squash matches. Once that died out, his hype and his career also died out.

Thank god that can't wrestle for shit only lasted 1 year in the WWE.
When did Goldberg's career "die out"? He was always at the top of the card. In one year he practically became the face of the WWE. Fans were cheering for him over Lesnar who the WWE had spent 2 years building up as "the next big thing". All Goldberg had to do was show up.
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Old 06-30-2015, 10:36 AM   #43
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When did Goldberg's career "die out"? He was always at the top of the card. In one year he practically became the face of the WWE. Fans were cheering for him over Lesnar who the WWE had spent 2 years building up as "the next big thing". All Goldberg had to do was show up.

He was at the top of the card because they put him at the top of the card. Didn't they turn him heel at one point? He wasn't drawing.
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Old 06-30-2015, 12:19 PM   #44
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Rock
Stone Cold
Undertaker
Hulk Hogan
...as far as entertainment goes


Watch Kurt Angle Chris Benoit at WM X7 for one of the best technical wrestling matches.
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