using ring count to determine how great a player is

[bigkingsfan]

Different era. In this era, russell type of players cant win anymore dipshit

That's like saying two points shooting can no longer win today's game...

[fourkicks44]

Well, this is the problem.
When it doesn't fit your agenda, you change the criteria.
When it's Lebron, it's all about rings as the man ( and sacrificing stats, and all that crap) and when it's russell, it's about stats.
Cherry picking narratives
This is why nobody takes MJ/Kobe stans seriously. They flip flop all the time. They can stay consistent.

How the F()CK did I change the criteria.

Any single stat or number to determine how great a player is incomprehensive.

However ring counts are a good place to start as the ultimate goal of any individual and team is to win the championship.

Go back through the thread and find it your self if you want.

[knicksman]

In the end, it comes down to playing lebron ball or winning ball aka off ball. Lebron ball lets you accumulate stats but eventually leads to an L. Thats why only idiots fall for triple double players.

[Disaprine]

2/7

[LBJFTW]

LeGMtard essentially left his stans raw with no Vaseline. Literally backed them into a corner with no way to even defend him and here's why:

1. Anything he's done post season wise is tainted by the fact that he was only able to do it by joining on the most stacked team, in the eastern conference. Look at the reg season win loss ratio of the teams he was on every time he made it to the finals.

2. His finals record is laughable. 2/7 even though he selected his own teammates by playing LeGM? How the fvck do you lose when the front office lets you make all the decisions on who to surround yourself with?

3. He has zero argument against kobe. No one gives a fvck about Kobe's best finals numbers vs lebrons best finals numbers. The bottom line is that Kobe won 2 rings after battling through the more difficult west conference with less help than what bron had when he won his 2 rings battling through the weak east. There is no comparison really.

4. The whole "love and kyrie were injured in 2015" argument means nothing because here they are healthy as can be, and if not for Draymond being suspended they would have lost the series 4-1. This makes bron's loss in 2015 a legit loss because he would have lost regardless.

There is zero argument against any of this and that's why everything these lebron stans believe in is a complete utter joke not even worthy of discussion. They just hear the facts, meltdown, and the cycle repeats itself again, and again, and again, and again.....

[beastee]

nobody takes MJ/Kobe stans seriously. They flip flop all the time. They can stay consistent.

[West-Side]

Different era. In this era, russell type of players cant win anymore dipshit

Russell/MJ is a perfect comparison to Kobe/LeBron.
Russell competed on a STACKED ass team in a league consisting of 8/10 teams. Won 11 titles in 2 less seasons. Jordan was 6 for 6 in a much tougher era.

Same logic applies to LeBron, the difference?
He only won 2 titles and lost a chance at a ring FIVE times.
That's pathetic. The only reason he has 7 appearances is because he essentially had what Russell had. A stacked team and weak competition.

[Sakkreth]

Winning rings as the man is first criteria, not the only one but very important one. So let's see:

LeBron: 2
Kobe: 1
Curry: 0

[GoSpursGo1984]

Winning rings as the man is first criteria, not the only one but very important one. So let's see:

LeBron: 2
Kobe: 1
Curry: 0

Dates gone on with actual girls not blow up dolls

Lebron tons
Kobe tons
Curry tons
Sakkreth none