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    Default Age old stats vs accolades: Kawhi Leonard vs Tracy McGrady





    FMVP and a ring (and probably will play career with Spurs and also be perceived as "loyal") vs a perennial playoff disappointment who bounced around the league.

    Will "winner" vs "loser" labels and such rewrite their places in history, despite stats indicating Tmac was the superior player?
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    Default Re: Age old stats vs accolades: Kawhi Leonard vs Tracy McGrady

    Nobody cares about Kawhi's FMVP. Just like very few care about Billups (who was a great player)

    Tmac will be known as the better player assuming Kawhi doesnt get better obviously.

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    Default Re: Age old stats vs accolades: Kawhi Leonard vs Tracy McGrady

    Eye test will show Tmac was clearly better.

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    Default Re: Age old stats vs accolades: Kawhi Leonard vs Tracy McGrady

    Tmac better offensive player while Kawi is better defensivley.

    People saying no one would care is dumb, it really depends on what Leonard does for the remainder of his career. Hes not even 25 or in his prime

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    Default Re: Age old stats vs accolades: Kawhi Leonard vs Tracy McGrady

    Kawhi will be the Havlicek of this era.

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    Default Re: Age old stats vs accolades: Kawhi Leonard vs Tracy McGrady

    Tmac in Toronto was a similar defensive player to Leonard. And he showed it at times in Orlando.

    I imagine late Raptors Mcgrady on the spurs would be hell.

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    Default Re: Age old stats vs accolades: Kawhi Leonard vs Tracy McGrady

    Quote Originally Posted by navy
    Nobody cares about Kawhi's FMVP. Just like very few care about Billups (who was a great player)

    Tmac will be known as the better player assuming Kawhi doesnt get better obviously.
    Will be interesting if Kawhi wins multiple FMVPs as the best of a bunch of 'system' players, and whether that will devalue the FMVP award in any way.

    Only players to win multiple FMVPs are: Reed, Magic, Kareem, Bird, Jordan, Hakeem, Shaq, Duncan, Kobe, LeBron

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    Default Re: Age old stats vs accolades: Kawhi Leonard vs Tracy McGrady

    Quote Originally Posted by K Xerxes
    Will be interesting if Kawhi wins multiple FMVPs as the best of a bunch of 'system' players, and whether that will devalue the FMVP award in any way.
    If he putting up less than 20 points per game? Definitely. I mean people use Nash's two mvps to discount like 40 other people's legitimate ones. (Not saying Nash's were illegitimate per say but you get the point)

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    Default Re: Age old stats vs accolades: Kawhi Leonard vs Tracy McGrady

    Quote Originally Posted by K Xerxes
    Will be interesting if Kawhi wins multiple FMVPs as the best of a bunch of 'system' players, and whether that will devalue the FMVP award in any way.

    Only players to win multiple FMVPs are: Reed, Magic, Kareem, Bird, Jordan, Hakeem, Shaq, Duncan, Kobe, LeBron
    Should have been Wade too

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    Default Re: Age old stats vs accolades: Kawhi Leonard vs Tracy McGrady

    Quote Originally Posted by SouBeachTalents
    Should have been Wade too
    okay?
    should of results in same thing as not even coming close

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    Default Re: Age old stats vs accolades: Kawhi Leonard vs Tracy McGrady

    I'll take TMac on my team and on any team over Kawhi.

    Kawahi's role next should be interesting. I assume the Spurs are going to have him shoulder an even larger offense role? Kind of like from TD to Parker in the late 2000s... More Parker to Leonard? If he can handle it, that will certainly allow the Spurs to rest even more than they do.

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    Default Re: Age old stats vs accolades: Kawhi Leonard vs Tracy McGrady

    Anyone who picks tmac, also should agree that bran > kobe. Cant have it both ways

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    Default Re: Age old stats vs accolades: Kawhi Leonard vs Tracy McGrady

    kawhi will be an all star and candidate dpoy (multiple times), then they will be closer to players at the end of the career of kawhi

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