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Old 03-14-2007, 02:14 PM   #16
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yes he is, he hustles, scores and actually can rebound and block shots, big Z is softer than charmin and does nothing but shoot gay ass soft jumpers, give me alonzo anyday, i wish we had someone like that in the lakers.
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Old 03-14-2007, 02:18 PM   #17
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yes he is, he hustles, scores and actually can rebound and block shots, big Z is softer than charmin and does nothing but shoot gay soft ass jumpers, give me alonzo anyday, i wish we had someone like that in the lakers.

Z actually has a post game. Terrific touch around the basket, up and under move, a beautiful hook. Zo's lost a step, and simply can't bring it on the offensive end nearly as much anymore.

And Z can block shots. Amost 1.5 per game. Not to mention Z averages over 3 more rebounds than Zo does per 48 minutes.

Your logic is flawed.
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Old 03-14-2007, 02:23 PM   #18
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lmao, Z averages less then 1.5 blocks per game and you are telling me he is a good shot blocker and is My logic what is flawed here ?

alonzo averages 2.6 blocks OFF THE BENCH and is a major force and intimidator on defense, this one is not close really, give me alnzo without a doubt.
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Old 03-14-2007, 02:28 PM   #19
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I didn't say Z was a better shotblocker than Zo, I just said Z CAN block shots. And he does. Almost 3 per 48 minutes.

Z even rebounds better than Zo, which was one of your arguments. Not to mention the FT% disparity. Z shoots the freakin technicals. 82% shooter or something like that. Z's the better offensive player undoubtedly, the better rebounder, and he can still block shots. All Zo has is interior defense. Zo isn't even that great of a 1v1 post defender, and he and Z are probably on the same level in the regard.
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Old 03-14-2007, 02:32 PM   #20
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What you poeple fail to realize is that Shaq is NOT playing with the same team Wade did, yeah the team itself is the same but really all the team did was pass it to Wade and let him work, Wades injury caused EVERYONE to step up and play alot better which they could have done with Wade but they didnt, anyone who saw the playoffs last year knows Wade is our best player by far...
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Old 03-14-2007, 02:38 PM   #21
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What you poeple fail to realize is that Shaq is NOT playing with the same team Wade did, yeah the team itself is the same but really all the team did was pass it to Wade and let him work, Wades injury caused EVERYONE to step up and play alot better which they could have done with Wade but they didnt, anyone who saw the playoffs last year knows Wade is our best player by far...

That's extremely true, and partly Riley's fault. The offense is just stagnant, and Wade does all the work himself. I suppose it's not Riley's fault completely, because with shaq, you have a guy that you really don't need a teriffic offense to run because you can dump it into him and let people work off of that. With Shaq out, and no real offense to run (nobody's knows one because Shaq/Wade would just do all the work), the Heat were forced to simply isolate Wade at the top and run screen and rolls. Problem is, they don't even have any really good pick/roll players. Toine's a horrible decision maker, Haslem's inconsistent with his jumpshot, Zo just doesn't have the skill anymore, etc. So that leaves Wade taking it to the cup and either forcing up a shot or dishing out to one of four jump shooters for a shot. If they're hitting, that's all well and good. If they aren't... well you get the losses.
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Old 03-14-2007, 02:45 PM   #22
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The thought of LeBron and Shaq sounds so fun. That would be some great stuff to watch.

But hey, it's Wade and Shaq and they're kickin ass, so let's just give them a high-five
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That's extremely true, and partly Riley's fault. The offense is just stagnant, and Wade does all the work himself. I suppose it's not Riley's fault completely, because with shaq, you have a guy that you really don't need a teriffic offense to run because you can dump it into him and let people work off of that. With Shaq out, and no real offense to run (nobody's knows one because Shaq/Wade would just do all the work), the Heat were forced to simply isolate Wade at the top and run screen and rolls. Problem is, they don't even have any really good pick/roll players. Toine's a horrible decision maker, Haslem's inconsistent with his jumpshot, Zo just doesn't have the skill anymore, etc. So that leaves Wade taking it to the cup and either forcing up a shot or dishing out to one of four jump shooters for a shot. If they're hitting, that's all well and good. If they aren't... well you get the losses.

Err no

If doesn't count when I say lebrons teammates do this it doesn't count for you.
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Old 03-14-2007, 03:12 PM   #24
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Err no

If doesn't count when I say lebrons teammates do this it doesn't count for you.

When did I say it doesn't count for LeBron? In LeBron's case it does the exact same thing.
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