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Re: Please explain to me how KG is better than Dirk...
Originally Posted by TheMarkMadsen
Dude
KG was putting up 23/14/6/2 with goat level defense during his prime.
He's a better passer, a better rebounder, and is so incredibly better on defense that it makes the gap too big to make up.
This
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Re: Please explain to me how KG is better than Dirk...
Originally Posted by SupermanOnSteroids
But can he LEAD a team to a title as the go to option?
Like I already stated, Allen and Pierce scored more points on better percentages ACROSS THE BOARD during his lone title.
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Re: Please explain to me how KG is better than Dirk...
tyson chandler had more WS than Dirk that year.
unsung MVP.
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Re: Please explain to me how KG is better than Dirk...
Originally Posted by Nowitness
tyson chandler had more WS than Dirk that year.
unsung MVP.
Defense matters. Not surprised if true.
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Re: Please explain to me how KG is better than Dirk...
Originally Posted by Nowitness
tyson chandler had more WS than Dirk that year.
unsung MVP.
yeah, i'm sure Tyson Chandler was scoring basket after basket to bring his team back from a deficit to go for the win in the closing minutes that year too. Don't rely on stats alone, rely on your eyes.
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Re: Please explain to me how KG is better than Dirk...
Give KG prime Nash (yes prime, he won the next 2 MVPS immediately after leaving dirk) and another all star guard in Finley and he takes those teams further than Dirk ever did.
If Dirk didnt bitch & moan on draft day & refuse to play for the Bucks and didnt instead of play for the guy willing to spend whatever it takes to win.. And he never has the success KG had in Minnesota individually or team wise.
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Re: Please explain to me how KG is better than Dirk...
Originally Posted by SupermanOnSteroids
yeah, i'm sure Tyson Chandler was scoring basket after basket to bring his team back from a deficit to go for the win in the closing minutes that year too. Don't rely on stats alone, rely on your eyes.
dirk was the man in the clutch.
tyson did everything to put that team in a position to win, mainly his defense.
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Re: Please explain to me how KG is better than Dirk...
Originally Posted by RoundMoundOfReb
not gonna act like it's not close but KG is a GOAT level defender imo
nah, his defense never impressed me in the playoffs. he got abused in a lot of series.
give me a conventional bigs defense come playoff time. playing like a guard doesn't do your team any good.
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Re: Please explain to me how KG is better than Dirk...
Originally Posted by SupermanOnSteroids
yeah, i'm sure Tyson Chandler was scoring basket after basket to bring his team back from a deficit to go for the win in the closing minutes that year too. Don't rely on stats alone, rely on your eyes.
Jason Terry was probably close or maybe even better than Dirk in the clutch that year. Dirk had no help though.
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Re: Please explain to me how KG is better than Dirk...
2010 finals...
KG - 15.3ppg, 5.6rpg, 3.0apg, 1.4spg, 1.3bpg, 51%.
Pau - 18.6ppg, 11.6rpg, 3.7apg, 0.7spg, 2.6bpg, 48%.
Allen and Pierce outscored KG in the 2008 finals with better percentages across the board. For his only title, KG was a third option offensively.
And he's rated higher than Dirk?
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Re: Please explain to me how KG is better than Dirk...
Originally Posted by TheMarkMadsen
Give KG prime Nash (yes prime, he won the next 2 MVPS immediately after leaving dirk) and another all star guard in Finley and he takes those teams further than Dirk ever did.
If Dirk didnt bitch & moan on draft day & refuse to play for the Bucks and didnt instead of play for the guy willing to spend whatever it takes to win.. And he never has the success KG had in Minnesota individually or team wise.
Nash only averaged 8 assists ONCE his whole time in Dallas. His whole time in Dallas he was a good offensive PG and a HUGE hole on defense. Just ask a Kings fan about it. Finley's prime was wasted on the bad Mavs teams. Finley's peak was during the first Mavs palyoffs appearence when they beat the Jazz. After that he was all down hill. He demanded respect and got it too. And unfairly so. Dirk always deferred to Finley out of respect. And it took until his departure from the Mavs for the Mavs to finally make it to the Finals.
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Re: Please explain to me how KG is better than Dirk...
KG can lead a team defensively, whereas Dirk can't.
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Re: Please explain to me how KG is better than Dirk...
Originally Posted by TheMarkMadsen
Give KG prime Nash (yes prime, he won the next 2 MVPS immediately after leaving dirk) and another all star guard in Finley and he takes those teams further than Dirk ever did.
If Dirk didnt bitch & moan on draft day & refuse to play for the Bucks and didnt instead of play for the guy willing to spend whatever it takes to win.. And he never has the success KG had in Minnesota individually or team wise.
It's no coincidence the Mavs made two finals after Nash left.
Nash is highly overrated.
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Re: Please explain to me how KG is better than Dirk...
Originally Posted by navy
Jason Terry was probably close or maybe even better than Dirk in the clutch that year. Dirk had no help though.
Terry was bad ass that year. No kidding. But end of games, Mavs dribble the ball up court and pass to Dirk, Dirk makes moves, creates for himself, shoots, scores. Same thing over and over and over. That was basically the whole Mavs offense in the last 5 minutes of the game. And it worked every time.
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Re: Please explain to me how KG is better than Dirk...
Originally Posted by J Shuttlesworth
KG can lead a team defensively, whereas Dirk can't.
Lead them where? Pierce and Allen carried him offensively during their only title.
Where has KG led any team without two stars carrying him?
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