How many people have died due to climate change?

[gigantes]

1. Heat waves aren't a new phenomenon
2. Starvation? That's more economic combined with overpopulation
3. Deadly Storms? There's been deadly storms since the Earth's creation.
4. Mosquito-borne diseases? Look at answer above.
5. Economic situations? Poor economies cause climate change?

1,3,4-- i didn't say climate change created those things. i said CC worsens those things.

2-- what you mentioned are factors, but the fact is that crop efficiency continues to decline due to CC. think more heat waves, more unstable rain, more pests.

5-- climate change is hard on economies in many different ways. worsening economies is hard on people in any number of ways.

[Patrick Chewing]

Ewing, I get it, you want to deny the impact of climate change.

But that's all you're doing is denying it.

Nobody who lives in a region that used to grow crops for 1,000 years wants to have to abandon their whole ****ing town or city and migrate hundreds or thousands of miles somewhere else because the living they and their ancestors could once make is no longer sustainable due to the average number of days of good weather rapidly changing within a few years or decades to become worse than it used to be. This is climate change.

Who is denying it? The only thing I'm denying is this belief that man is affecting the Earth's climate. Climate change happens normally.



And then for these political hacks and assclowns like the President to say that terrorism is a direct result of climate change is preposterous.

Climate change is a natural occurrence. There is nothing to be made from it. Period.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

Ewing, I get it, you want to deny the impact of climate change.

But that's all you're doing is denying it.

Nobody who lives in a region that used to grow crops for 1,000 years wants to have to abandon their whole ****ing town or city and migrate hundreds or thousands of miles somewhere else because the living they and their ancestors could once make is no longer sustainable due to the average number of days of good weather rapidly changing within a few years or decades to become worse than it used to be. This is climate change.

Actually there has been a "hiatus" in the warming of the earth. There has not been significant warming on the global scale since 1998 (iirc). Not to say climate change isn't a real thing, but this lunacy about how every skeptic is labled a "denier" without the actual facts being discussed makes this kind of like a religion. Heck the positives of fossil fuels can also never be discussed.

Also, there is this ridiculous idea that climate change created ISIS lmao.

[KNOW1EDGE]

How many people have died from being alive?

[CavaliersFTW]

Who is denying it? The only thing I'm denying is this belief that man is affecting the Earth's climate. Climate change happens normally.



And then for these political hacks and assclowns like the President to say that terrorism is a direct result of climate change is preposterous.

Climate change is a natural occurrence. There is nothing to be made from it. Period.

If you deny that man is changing the climate you're a huge ****ing retard.

Did you deny that your math teacher was solving math problems on the chalkboard just because you couldn't understand how to understand the data, the problem and the solution?

This is the same thing. It's literally just a matter of can you understand the data. If you can't don't be afraid to admit it. But climate change isn't an idea, it is an observation.


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[RoundMoundOfReb]

The most disturbing climate-change related statistic is probably that 27% of democrats want anthropocentric climate change doubters to be prosecuted.

[CavaliersFTW]

Actually there has been a "hiatus" in the warming of the earth. There has not been significant warming on the global scale since 1998 (iirc). Not to say climate change isn't a real thing, but this lunacy about how every skeptic is labled a "denier" without the actual facts being discussed makes this kind of like a religion. Heck the positives of fossil fuels can also never be discussed.

Also, there is this ridiculous idea that climate change created ISIS lmao.

Actually it hasn't, it's still rising. Climate changed isn't even focused year to year or just looked at in 10 year stretches. It's measured over the course of hundreds and thousands of years. The trend is still a sharp upward rise in temperature.

[DCL]

nobody cares now because it's tomorrow's problem.

humans are natural procrastinators. we're dumber than squirrels in some ways. look at 65 year olds' zero savings when they enter retirement...

you'll probably be over 80, 100, 120, or dead when it becomes an urgent survival issue.

it's probably your grandkid's problem.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

Actually it hasn't, it's still rising.

The rise has significantly slowed down to say the least. The rise has been much lower than what had been predicted.

[KNOW1EDGE]

Climate change aka ManBearPig

[CavaliersFTW]

The rise has significantly slowed down to say the least. The rise has been much lower than what had been predicted.

See the above post.

Nothing has 'slowed down'.

Climate data isn't alarming in 10 or 20 year stretches. It's alarming in 100 and 200 year stretches.

You have peaks and valleys year to year, even decade to decade, you have to graph it over hundreds of years and compare it with ice core data of thousands of years and c02 emissions.

Then you see - oh shit we dumped a **** load more c02 into the atmosphere than has ever happened "naturally".

Then you see - oh shit the earths climate is intrinsically linked with c02 in the atmosphere be it naturally or otherwise.

Then you see - oh shit over the past 200 years as we dumped c02 into the atmosphere, the earth's temperature did in fact spike up dramatically fast - faster than it ever did in the past million years of ice core data.


.....Because of that c02 we put into the air.




And it's not a political idea, it's an observation.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

Actually it hasn't, it's still rising. Climate changed isn't even focused year to year or just looked at in 10 year stretches. It's measured over the course of hundreds and thousands of years. The trend is still a sharp upward rise in temperature.

What percentage of climate change is anthroprogenic?

What are the consequences of climate change? Are we talking doomsday or a slightly warmer planet?

Do the benefits of preventing climate change outway the benefits of fossil fuel usage?

If you want to change law that will ban or significantly curtail fossil fuel usage, that will have a significant ecnomic impact, possibly leading to the starvation of countless people (without fossil fuel powered agriculture) these questions need to be answered.

Also, developing countries like China and India are never going to go along with this. Slightly lower living standards in the west means very little, slightly lower living standards in 3rd world countries actually means a lot.

[CavaliersFTW]

Roundmoundofreb

That chart you posted of 1998 to now... that's the purple line of this chart.

The blue line and purple lines represents the average temperatures in their time frames.

Notice.. it's still rising.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

See the above post.

Nothing has 'slowed down'.

Climate data isn't alarming in 10 or 20 year stretches. It's alarming in 100 and 200 year stretches.

You have peaks and valleys year to year, even decade to decade, you have to graph it over hundreds of years and compare it with ice core data of thousands of years and c02 emissions.

Then you see - oh shit we dumped a **** load more c02 into the atmosphere than has ever happened "naturally".

Then you see - oh shit the earths climate is intrinsically linked with c02 in the atmosphere be it naturally or otherwise.

Then you see - oh shit over the past 200 years as we dumped c02 into the atmosphere, the earth's temperature did in fact spike up dramatically fast - faster than it ever did in the past million years of ice core data.


.....Because of that c02 we put into the air.




And it's not a political idea, it's an observation.

Once again, I'm not saying anthropogenic climate change isn't real - in reality I do believe it (maybe not to the level you do). I'm just saying that the argument that the recent upswing in terrorism is due to climate change is nonsense, since there hasn't really been any evidence to suggest warming in recent years.

[gigantes]

nobody cares now because it's tomorrow's problem.

humans are natural procrastinators. we're dumber than squirrels in some ways. look at 65 year olds' zero savings when they enter retirement...

you'll probably be over 80, 100, 120, or dead when it becomes an urgent survival issue.

it's probably your grandkid's problem.

wrong, right, wrong and wrong.

it's been a problem for some years, is a big problem right now, and is on track to become a mass extinction event. just look at this year's coming el ni