John Wall or Kyrie Irving?

[AintNoSunshine]

Love Kyrie. Way better offensive player.

But Wall being the better playmaker may be a bit easier to build around.

But if it's my team where I am choosing with my gut feeling I will take Kyrie, because you can never underestimate the ability to score in almost any given situation.

[RedBlackAttack]

Wall's Rookie Season:

Wall
JaVale McGee (clown)
Andray Blatche (Clown)
Nick Young (CLOWN)
Kirk Hinrich (old)
Yi Jianlian (Chinesey)

Coach: Flip Saunders

^In order of minutes played


NEXT SEASON:

John Wall
Jordan Crawford (double clown)
Chris Singleton (garbage rookie)
Trevor Booker (undersized rebounder)
Nick Young
Kevin Serapin (has no idea how to play basketball)
JaVale McGee
Jan Vesely (hot garbage. 1-21 on his first 21 jumpshots....weighed like 180lbs)

Kyrie was not alone in the shitty team situation.

No, but Wall doesn't get beaten around for not finding a way to win with those horrible rosters the way Kyrie does. The roster I posted was the Cavs' starting lineup to start his third season.

With the teams you posted, Wall's teams went 22-60 and 20-46, respectively. That's not held against John, nor should it be.

Kyrie Irving going 33-49 with the roster I posted does often come under fire for not leading his team to the playoffs before LeBron showed up.

[FatComputerNerd]

I am honestly shocked this is still a debate.

It's only a debate because of Wall being arguably a better pure PG and defender.

TBH I would probably take Wall myself if building a team from scratch, if not Conley, and I'm a freaking cavs fan who loves Kyrie!

That said, Kyrie is clearly the superior player.