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Old 09-01-2010, 02:57 AM   #1
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Default Toni Kukoc vs Lamar Odom

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Old 09-01-2010, 02:59 AM   #2
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Kukoc.

Kukoc was considerd the Michael Jordan of his country at the time. There was a big deal made about him, that could have sent Pip elsewhere.
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Old 09-01-2010, 03:01 AM   #3
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Easily Lamar.



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Old 09-01-2010, 03:03 AM   #4
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Default Re: Toni Kukoc vs Lamar Odom

Kukoc, and pretty easily for me.

When given free reign on this team he averaged 20/5/5 pretty much. Dude was an excellent all round player, much like Lamar, though just more polished, a better shooter, better passer, etc.
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Old 09-01-2010, 03:05 AM   #5
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Odom because of his superior defense & rebounding.
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Old 09-01-2010, 03:07 AM   #6
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Default Re: Toni Kukoc vs Lamar Odom

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Kukoc, and pretty easily for me.

When given free reign on this team he averaged 20/5/5 pretty much. Dude was an excellent all round player, much like Lamar, though just more polished, a better shooter, better passer, etc.

Good points. But Lamar Odom has averaged things like 17/9/4 when he was starting on a daily basis, and in this cases he never was surrounded by the cast Kukoc had.

Its clear that Toni was the better shooter but I think they are equal passers, and Odom has the slight edge on rebounding. But I think the mentality is the decisive factor, Odom knows his role and does well, but he doesnt have an extremely competitive mindset to go out and exploit all his talent/potential. Kukoc was more of a winner than Lamar is.
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Old 09-01-2010, 03:09 AM   #7
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Default Re: Toni Kukoc vs Lamar Odom

pretty even. odom may be a better rebounder but kukoc is a better shooter. odom is better at defense and not being soft. kukoc hit clutch shots and had great length.

both are matchup nightmares for opposing coaches. both were great off the bench and could be inserted into the starting lineup without any problems.
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Kukoc was definitely a better passer, I really don't think there is any doubt about that. Watch him playing for the Bulls or even Croatia. He always had a better knack for it than Lamar.

Also, Kukoc was clutch, I'm not so sure about Lamar.
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Kukoc was definitely a better passer, I really don't think there is any doubt about that. Watch him playing for the Bulls or even Croatia. He always had a better knack for it than Lamar.

Also, Kukoc was clutch, I'm not so sure about Lamar.

I really aint seeing the passing thing. I didnt watch the second mid 90s Bulls live, but ive watched a lot of games in youtube and Kukoc made a personal impact on me since the beginning, very classy and at the same time working player. If you are talking about flashy passes and style, yes, he was probably better than Lamar. But the averages are equal, doesnt matter if your assists are uglier than others, its an assist after all. Kukoc has a top assist average of 5.3, while Lamar is at 5.9, its pretty equal, if not better Lamar, since he was passing the ball to much less quality players than Kukoc.

I agree about the clutch factor though, it basicly resonates with what I said about mentality, Kukoc has a better winning competitive mindset than Odom.
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Lol@Lamar not being clutch and Kukoc being a better passer
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Old 09-01-2010, 03:19 AM   #11
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Kukoc by far. I don't think this is really even a debate.
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Kukoc by far. I don't think this is really even a debate.

I couldnt care less about what you think. If its not worth a debate dont jump in here.
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Old 09-01-2010, 03:48 AM   #13
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Lamar, the only things kukoc has on odom is spacing the floor and clutchness while odom takes rebounding and defense. Kukoc being hid on defense and the other team giving an iso on whoever hes guarding was the norm back then. A similar comparison would be between chris mullin and scottie pippen.
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Kukoc 3poin Specialist ..
lamar odom - all around player + point forward
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Old 09-01-2010, 04:04 AM   #15
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Kukoc 3poin Specialist ..
lamar odom - all around player + point forward

You clearly havent watched him play.
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