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Old 05-07-2014, 06:55 PM   #31
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Default Re: Can Blake Griffin Surpass TD?

IF Blake keeps improving, gets at least a solid to good jumper and gets a more polished post game than peak Griffin could be just as good as peak Duncan.
i doubt it will happen but he improved a ton this season. like really much.
his prime wont be comparable to timmys, because while Duncan had a great peak that wasnt the most impressive about him. his long ass prime was so impressive. griffin wont have such a long time of dominance.
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Old 05-07-2014, 06:56 PM   #32
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How Blake is clearly top 5

KD
CP3
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steph???
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Old 05-07-2014, 06:59 PM   #33
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Blake is probably going to go down as the best player from his draft class

Hm? Who else in the conversation? Harden seems to be what he is (ie, I don't foresee him getting much better), and what is that is an already lesser player than Griffin. Griffin, imo, clearly has more room to improve as a basketball player. Look at the contrast in his jumper between the last two years. His handle and passing is noticeably improved and we haven't discussed the other side of the floor yet. Now the latter I'm not so sure he will ever reach his potential, but I'm confident he will improve more as a defender than Harden ever will.

Curry is interesting because he sort of has that Steve Nash game. It's there, you see it all, you know what he's great it, you know he lacks, and you don't think he will get too much better because of the physical limitations. Then Nash wins back-to-back MVPs. Then Curry averages 24/9 on godly percentages on a 50+ win team. I don't believe Curry can do that in the era of LeBron, Durant, and eventually Davis, but then you don't want to underestimate him either. I think he will always be right below that MVP-level, tho. 6-15, not 1-5.

No one else in the conversation. Lawson, Holiday, DeRozan, Gibson, Rubio, Teague? Nah.

Curious who you had in mind.


Oh yeah, Duncan is so underrated offensively.

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Old 05-07-2014, 07:01 PM   #34
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steph???


Warriors series came down to 7. How the fck is Blake and CP better than Steph then? Deandre was prolly the 4th best player in the series Doc>>>>>>>Mark Jackson
how is Steph not top 5
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Old 05-07-2014, 07:02 PM   #35
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Oh yeah, Duncan is so underrated offensively.


I have no doubt in my mind that he could have been a 30 PPG scorer if he went out to get stats. I mean, '01-'03 Duncan was pretty much a 30 PPG Playoff scorer. It's not only that though: it's his arsenal. His post game is the only truly impressive one I've seen since he was drafted; he could take big guys off the dribble, step out to mid, run the floor. Popovich called him a quarterback in shorts.

And even if he wasn't scoring, he was doing everything else. His worst scoring game in the '03 Playoffs was 11 pts (against the Suns). He shot 3 of 6, but he still had 23 rebounds, 6 assists and 3 blocks.

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Old 05-07-2014, 07:03 PM   #36
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He wont even surpass Pau Gasol when its all said and done

Already better than Pau who was never a top 5-7 player.
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Old 05-07-2014, 07:05 PM   #37
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Anything is possible, but realistically, given Blake's trajectory, I don't see it. big Griffin fan though (minus his great acting skills). Actually saw the first time he and Duncan ever faced off, preseason game at the AT&T center following Blake missing an entire year of ball. He's a sick player, albeit it's mostly offense. Nonetheless...

Blake is going into his 5th season in 2014-2015.

By the end of Duncan's 6th season he already had:

MVP x 2
FMVP x 2
All-Star x 5
All-NBA x 6
All-Defense x 6
Rookie of the Year

in that span averaged:

23 ppg | 12 rpg (3 orpg) | 3 apg | 3 bpg | 17 FGA @ .51 FG% | 8 FTA @ .71% | 39 mpg | 450+ games

highest scoring games (98-03):

53 pts -- vs. the Mavs (Dirk, Nash, etc)
46 pts --- vs. Jazz (Malone, Stockton, etc)
42 pts --- vs. Kings (Webber, Peja, etc)
42 pts --- vs. Grizzlies (Shareef, Bibby, etc)
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Old 05-07-2014, 07:05 PM   #38
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Already better than Pau who was never a top 5-7 player.
Pau was a top 7 player in 2010
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Old 05-07-2014, 07:06 PM   #39
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Anything is possible, but realistically, given Blake's trajectory, I don't see it. big Griffin fan though (minus his great acting skills). Actually saw the first time he and Duncan ever faced off, preseason game at the AT&T center following Blake missing an entire year of ball. He's a sick player, albeit it's mostly offense. Nonetheless...

Blake is going into his 5th season in 2014-2015.

By the end of Duncan's 6th season he already had:

MVP x 2
FMVP x 2
All-Star x 5
All-NBA x 6
All-Defense x 6
Rookie of the Year

in that span averaged:

23 ppg | 12 rpg (3 orpg) | 3 apg | 3 bpg | 17 FGA @ .51 FG% | 8 FTA @ .71% | 39 mpg | 450+ games

highest scoring games (99-03):

53 pts -- vs. the Mavs (Dirk, Nash, etc)
46 pts --- vs. Jazz (Malone, Stockton, etc)
42 pts --- vs. Kings (Webber, Peja, etc)
42 pts --- vs. Grizzlies (Shareef, Bibby, etc)

Duncan established himself as the GOAT PF in just 6 years.

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Old 05-07-2014, 07:07 PM   #40
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Warriors series came down to 7. How the fck is Blake and CP better than Steph then? Deandre was prolly the 4th best player in the series Doc>>>>>>>Mark Jackson
how is Steph not top 5
LeBron
Durant
Cp3
LMA
Blake
Playoff Dwight

are all easily better than Steph Curry.
hell, we might throw Anthony Davis in there as well
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Old 05-07-2014, 08:02 PM   #41
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No.
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Old 05-07-2014, 08:03 PM   #42
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Duncan established himself as the GOAT PF in just 6 years.


After his first 6 years he was not greater than Karl Malone, sorry.
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Old 05-07-2014, 08:09 PM   #43
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Damn, kids these days have a short memory.

Let me put this simply ..


Blake ain't done shit except a weird ass Kia commercial or two.
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Old 05-07-2014, 08:15 PM   #44
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After his first 6 years he was not greater than Karl Malone, sorry.

2 titles, 2 MVPs, top 3 Playoff run.

Yeah, he was greater than Karl Malone.
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Old 05-07-2014, 09:33 PM   #45
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BG will surpass him

book it
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