Tim Duncan: GREATEST Player since Jordan -- FACT***

[Myth]

But based on accolades its kindof different, i would give that one to Shaquille O'Neal.

Duncan easily has Shaq beat on accolades. Shaq has Duncan beat on peak.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

Since Michael Jordan's retirement (98) the greatest players ive seen are:

1. LeBron James (2008-2013)
2. Shaquille Oneal (1998-2005)
3. Kobe Bryant (2005-2008)
4. Tracy McGrady (2002-2004)
5. Tim Duncan (1999-2005)
6. Kevin Garnett (1998-2005)
7. Kevin Durant (2010-2013)
8. Dwyane Wade (2006-2008)
9. Allen Iverson (1999-2005)
10. Dirk Nowitzki (2005-2010)

Lebron and Shaq are debatable (and i would probably agree with). Putting TMac over Duncan and KG is a disgrace.

[Deuce Bigalow]

Ahem...



1. Shaq
2. Kobe
3. Timmy

[knicksman]

I still think shaq is better. Its just that hes unfortunate to play with kobe

[onhcetum]

Ahem...



1. Shaq
2. Kobe
3. Timmy

lol @ playing on the same team, and getting beat by Duncan TWICE

[bdreason]

I would probably agree. My rankings would look something like;


1. Duncan
2. Shaq
3. Kobe
4. LeBron
5. KG
6. Dirk
7. Wade


I'm probably forgetting someone, it's late.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

This.

Yeah...for me it goes:

Individual players
1. LeBron James (this year, he's been unworldly; best player since peak MJ)
2A. Duncan (better all-around player than Shaq, especially on defense; guy had just as much as impact too)
2B. Shaq (better peak, more dominant)
3. Kobe
4. KG
5. Wade
6. Dirk
7. Durant (a few more seasons of his efficient scoring and imo he COULD be top 5).
8A. Mcgrady
8B. Iverson

Putting it ALL together
1. Duncan
2. Shaq
3. Kobe
4. Lebron
5. KG
6. Wade
7. Dirk
8. Iverson
9A. Durant
9B. Mcgrady

[RoundMoundOfReb]

Yeah...for me it goes:

Individual players
1. LeBron James (this year, he's been unworldly; best player since peak MJ)
2A. Duncan (better all-around player than Shaq, especially on defense; guy had just as much as impact too)
2B. Shaq (better peak, more dominant)
3. Kobe
4. KG
5. Wade
6. Dirk
7. Durant (a few more seasons of his efficient scoring and imo he COULD be top 5).
8A. Mcgrady
8B. Iverson

Putting it ALL together
1. Duncan
2. Shaq
3. Kobe
4. Lebron
5. KG
6. Wade
7. Dirk
8. Iverson
9A. Durant
9B. Mcgrady

agree almost 100% with both lists. Duncan vs Shaq for me is tough to decide though in the "putting it all together" list.

future repped

[TheFastOne]

Yeah...for me it goes:

Individual players
1. LeBron James (this year, he's been unworldly; best player since peak MJ)
2A. Duncan (better all-around player than Shaq, especially on defense; guy had just as much as impact too)
2B. Shaq (better peak, more dominant)
3. Kobe
4. KG
5. Wade
6. Dirk
7. Durant (a few more seasons of his efficient scoring and imo he COULD be top 5).
8A. Mcgrady
8B. Iverson

Putting it ALL together
1. Duncan
2. Shaq
3. Kobe
4. Lebron
5. KG
6. Wade
7. Dirk
8. Iverson
9A. Durant
9B. Mcgrady

You've got yourself a clear case.

[ThaRegul8r]

Lebron and Shaq are debatable (and i would probably agree with). Putting TMac over Duncan and KG is a disgrace.

Since he's talking only about players he's seen and not claiming it to be thee official list (which as I've said repeatedly in the past more people should do), it's possible he's seen more of McGrady than Duncan (everyone does not see every player an equal amount of times), and thus earns the higher ranking.

[Mr. Jabbar]

kobe bryant

- sporting news player of the decade

- sports illustrated player of the decade

- dime magazine player of the decade

- tnt player of the decade



all meaningless now that we have this valued OP's opinion on insidehoops.com/forum nba general section

Exactly, why should we hear to knowledgeable people when we have OP?

[BoutPractice]

Taking everything into account, yes, that's pretty reasonable. I think he has a stronger argument over Shaq than say Magic versus Bird or Russell versus Wilt.

The only spot in his career is not getting to - at least - five championships, which he definitely had the potential and opportunity to do. Part of it was bad luck (starting with the whole Derek Fisher thing), but the Spurs also choked a few times. Five championships would have definitely made his case against O'Neal and Kobe. Still, the idea that winning only four championships could be seen as a weakness goes to show how great a player we're talking about.

[pauk]

Duncan easily has Shaq beat on accolades. Shaq has Duncan beat on peak.

Maybe yea, but when you consider it all, the talent of Shaq aswell, the fear he striked upon teams.... 1999-2003... that was some domination of epic proportions, Duncan never dominated like that... you could go with Duncan aswell, its debatable, but please let me go with Shaq.... please... you can have Duncan... :)

[Deuce Bigalow]

lol @ playing on the same team, and getting beat by Duncan TWICE

1999- Kobe was 20 years old. He was not a superstar yet, and when he did become one we all know what happened next. 1999 was also the lockout season where if you look at the league numbers and compared it to past and future years, it was the worst year ever. Phil Jackson says it deserved an asterisk, but that is a different topic.

2003- Lakers were the defending backtobacktoback champions coming in. No team has ever won more than 3 in a row since 1966. Magic and Kareem couldn't win 3 in a row, let alone 4.

[qrich]

Yeah...for me it goes:

Individual players
1. LeBron James (this year, he's been unworldly; best player since peak MJ)
2A. Duncan (better all-around player than Shaq, especially on defense; guy had just as much as impact too)
2B. Shaq (better peak, more dominant)
3. Kobe
4. KG
5. Wade
6. Dirk
7. Durant (a few more seasons of his efficient scoring and imo he COULD be top 5).
8A. Mcgrady
8B. Iverson

Putting it ALL together
1. Duncan
2. Shaq
3. Kobe
4. Lebron
5. KG
6. Wade
7. Dirk
8. Iverson
9A. Durant
9B. Mcgrady

Besides Myth destroying the idiot, this is the best post in this thread.

Think LeBron will leapfrog Kobe easily when its done, maybe Shaq as well.