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Old 12-08-2010, 05:52 PM   #16
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honestly the only thing I think these 3 men have in common is that they all own VERY POPULAR NFL teams that make huge profits regardless of what they do on the field...and that is it, other than that they are very different types of people...

you forgot the part about all three being meddling owners who change coaches like underwear, throw money at problems, and think they know better than their staff when it comes to setting up a team.
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you forgot the part about all three being meddling owners who change coaches like underwear, throw money at problems, and think they know better than their staff when it comes to setting up a team.
might be right...

although I think Jerry is the best "meddling owner"...

at least right now...
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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...r-of-the-week/

^^^ Sean Lee defensive player of the week

see, Jerry is capable of making good picks... ...(Dez could have been ROY if not for the injury)



this last draft might work out just great...



ALSO, let me point out that it took a Keith Brooking injury to find Lee...(an old vet was in his way)
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I would take him in Oakland...for the right price of course.

I think he would like the defense we play in.
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Dallas could REALLY use a DT actually...move Ratliff to DE like he is supposed to be...


not sure I would take that mess for free though...
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I would take him in Oakland...for the right price of course.

I think he would like the defense we play in.
I believe he's got some shit karma coming. This isn't 100% logic (obviously), this is just me feeling strongly that his story isn't going to end well.
Besides, if he pulled his bullshit over there Seymour would kick his ass.
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Old 12-09-2010, 01:35 AM   #22
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You don't make sense considering this has been going on before the season even began. It's a move due to a team being tired of his shit and to try and get back money from a lazy, selfish player. He's been called out by a number of his teammates throughout the year.......
Yet the team NEVER disciplined him. Outside of the fine for missing the off-season mini-camp and the issue with the fitness test Haynesworth has not done anything wrong. Contrary to what the media presents Haynesworth has never said no to anything he has been asked to do. Haynesworth sucked as a NT just like he said he would but he did in fact give it a try.

Now here is my question, if Haynesworth really was a problem why was he not cut or traded already? Again, contrary to what the media is suggesting the 'Skins have had a number of chances to trade Haynesworth. They chose not to each time. If the guy was really such a big headache why not accept the 4th round pick they got offered by Tennessee at the draft and again at the trade dead line?

As for the players calling him out, who cares?! It is not a coincidence that the guys Haynesworth actually speaks to all say that the situation has been misrepresented. The only players to speak negatively about Haynesworth are guys that Haynesworth has alluded to not caring for personally as early as last season.(ie Philip Daniels)

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....and yet you somehow think it's just a ploy to deflect away from a season where the team has already won more games than all of last year?
If it is not why is it these stories about Haynesworth ONLY come up after Shanahan gets out coached and his poor job of talent evaluation and team building get exposed?! If this "Haynesworth is destroying the team" thing was 100% legit why is it his productivity is questioned when he has actually been their most effective Defensive Linemen?

You dismissively say "won more games than all of last year" as though they are world beaters.They have only ONE more win than last season. Their a remaining schedule:

vs Tampa Bay
@ Dallas
@ Jacksonville
vs Giants

Do you see the 'Skins winning another game this season? These guys will in all likeliness end the season 5-11 with a record of 1-8 in the second half of the season. There only wins of substance would be the Chicago Bears, a Mike Vick-less Philadelphia Eagles team, and the Green Bay Packers minus four or five defensive starters. Season was a total failure and there was NO progress made toward righting the ship.
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I still believe Albert could be a monster in a 4-3 scheme.

We'll trade a 3rd rounder for him!
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I still believe Albert could be a monster in a 4-3 scheme.

We'll trade a 3rd rounder for him!
I'm hoping Haynesworth wants to kick the hell out the 'Skins nexy tear and signs with the Giants. Help put it on DC two times a year.
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This guy Haynesworth is such a joke. In an ideal world he would be out of a job but he is an all world talent and is a very disruptive when he wants to be. Even at his best he's only a 20-30 play guy a game. Very few DTs have a motor to go hard every snap which is ultimately what separates him from a guy like Suh who is not only blessed with amazing physical gifts but works his but off.

The team that does take the chance and signs this bum will more than likely get themselves one motivated player and he will go on a tear. Redskins better hope he goes out of the division.
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Only way I would ever want Haynesworth on my team is if he was signed to a 1 year deal.
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I'm hoping Haynesworth wants to kick the hell out the 'Skins nexy tear and signs with the Giants. Help put it on DC two times a year.

I hate Haynesworth's behaviour but that would be sick.

The Giants four man rush would kill QB's all day long.
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I think it is hard to overstate this one really...it was really bad, plain and simple

Yes, that one was bad, but you overstated by saying, "the list of has-been vets that guy has signed is endless". I still think Haslett was worse. I don't think Haynesworth would have been as lazy and selfish if we stuck with the 4-3 and had somebody who knows what they're doing on defense.

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how many big names are there on that Skins roster that they created themselves?...Trent Williams?...Horton?...bout it I think, and those are hardly "big names"...

Who cares where they were "created"? But, to answer your question: Chris Cooley, Brian Orakpo, Carlos Rogers, LaRon Landry, and lesser players like Fred Davis, Derrick Dockery, and Rocky McIntosh. Williams is a rookie, so I wouldn't say him yet.

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What? Kelly has been hampered by injuries. What vets were holding him back? Didn't you notice how desperate we were for offensive players this year? Who are you referring to? This team has had so many injuries that all kinds of people have been given a chance.
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Yet the team NEVER disciplined him.

He was disciplined last year and you could say not starting any games and not getting put in during some key situations is another form of disciplinary action.

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Outside of the fine for missing the off-season mini-camp and the issue with the fitness test Haynesworth has not done anything wrong. Contrary to what the media presents Haynesworth has never said no to anything he has been asked to do. Haynesworth sucked as a NT just like he said he would but he did in fact give it a try.

What? Besides being a lazy piece of shit, throwing fits, refusing to pay attention to coaches, and joining huddles, not wanting to play in the 3-4, showing up to practice late and hungover, refusing to follow instructions, etc...?

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if Haynesworth really was a problem why was he not cut or traded already? Again, contrary to what the media is suggesting the 'Skins have had a number of chances to trade Haynesworth. They chose not to each time. If the guy was really such a big headache why not accept the 4th round pick they got offered by Tennessee at the draft and again at the trade dead line?

They thought they could get it to work, so they didn't want to trade him and not get much value in return. Actually, they told him that he could go to any team he wanted by April 1st, but Haynesworth chose the $21 million to stay instead.

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As for the players calling him out, who cares?! It is not a coincidence that the guys Haynesworth actually speaks to all say that the situation has been misrepresented. The only players to speak negatively about Haynesworth are guys that Haynesworth has alluded to not caring for personally as early as last season.(ie Philip Daniels)

Haynesworth was called out by one of the most respected players, London Fletcher, he's been called out by coaches, many teammates, and even players from other teams, but yeah, who cares? Let's just let Haynesworth dictate how the team is run.

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If it is not why is it these stories about Haynesworth ONLY come up after Shanahan gets out coached and his poor job of talent evaluation and team building get exposed?! If this "Haynesworth is destroying the team" thing was 100% legit why is it his productivity is questioned when he has actually been their most effective Defensive Linemen?

What in the hell are you rambling about here? I don't see much that makes sense.

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You dismissively say "won more games than all of last year" as though they are world beaters.They have only ONE more win than last season.

5-7 vs. 3-9 at this point last year. Where did I say anything about being world beaters? You act like the season has been a huge failure while I'm merely saying it's an improvement over last season.

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Do you see the 'Skins winning another game this season? These guys will in all likeliness end the season 5-11 with a record of 1-8 in the second half of the season.

We could end the season 5-11, but to act like those games are unwinnable is stupid. Tampa's wins are over teams with a combined record of 22-62, the Cowboys game could go either way, the Jags are nothing special, and we usually have one bad game and one close game against the Giants every year and we've already had our bad game.

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There only wins of substance would be the Chicago Bears, a Mike Vick-less Philadelphia Eagles team, and the Green Bay Packers minus four or five defensive starters. Season was a total failure and there was NO progress made toward righting the ship.

Yeah, act like our opponents had all kinds of injuries while we didn't... They had Vick when we played them. We were up 14-0 when he was playing, but don't let that get in the way of all of your bullshit, though. He got knocked out of that game, and then we had to face a different QB who we weren't prepared for. No progress? Is that why we're 2 games ahead of last year while going through all kinds of injuries, and may have found some younger talent on offense? Oh, and don't forget firing Haslett would be progress, too. If we keep him, then maybe we're not moving towards righting the ship. You just sound like some hater who only wants to dump all over the team while not making much sense.
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Yes, that one was bad, but you overstated by saying, "the list of has-been vets that guy has signed is endless". I still think Haslett was worse. I don't think Haynesworth would have been as lazy and selfish if we stuck with the 4-3 and had somebody who knows what they're doing on defense.



Who cares where they were "created"? But, to answer your question: Chris Cooley, Brian Orakpo, Carlos Rogers, LaRon Landry, and lesser players like Fred Davis, Derrick Dockery, and Rocky McIntosh. Williams is a rookie, so I wouldn't say him yet.



What? Kelly has been hampered by injuries. What vets were holding him back? Didn't you notice how desperate we were for offensive players this year? Who are you referring to? This team has had so many injuries that all kinds of people have been given a chance.

you're right, there are a few players on that team "home-grown"...not many though, not that many true "studs"

the Kelly comment was more as a comment for any youngster not getting a shot cause of an old vet in the way...No one may be holding him back in particular, if you say that "all kinds of people have been given a chance" then maybe it is just a case of no one busting out yet...
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