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Re: All-time GOAT Shooting guard number 5
Originally Posted by Dragonyeuw
Higher all-time: Vince or Tmac?
Vince had the better career
TMac had the better peak
Vince's peak was also more derailed by injuries than TMac's. Vince peaked in his 3rd season. Atleast we got to see TMac play closer to his theoretical peak even if it was wasted on those WOAT Orlando teams.
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Coach
Re: All-time GOAT Shooting guard number 5
Originally Posted by Legends66NBA7
Clyde Drexler
George Gervin
Allen Iverson
Hal Greer
Sam Jones
Ray Allen
Reggie Miller
Sidney Monrcreif
Manu Ginobili
James Harden
I expect those names to pop up a lot. I added a bunch just for the sake of it. Do you guys consider Tracy McGrady a SG or SF ?
Ginobili in no way shape or form belongs on that list ... and I consider McGrady a SF
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Re: All-time GOAT Shooting guard number 5
Originally Posted by SamuraiSWISH
Ginobili in no way shape or form belongs on that list ... and I consider McGrady a SF
Yes he does
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Buck Dynasty
Re: All-time GOAT Shooting guard number 5
Originally Posted by SamuraiSWISH
Ginobili in no way shape or form belongs on that list ... and I consider McGrady a SF
Yes he absolutely does.
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with God-given ass
Re: All-time GOAT Shooting guard number 5
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College superstar
Re: All-time GOAT Shooting guard number 5
Originally Posted by FKAri
Vince had the better career
TMac had the better peak
Vince's peak was also more derailed by injuries than TMac's. Vince peaked in his 3rd season. Atleast we got to see TMac play closer to his theoretical peak even if it was wasted on those WOAT Orlando teams.
Agree with Carter better career, Tmac higher peak, though I think Vince's injury rep during his prime is a bit overblown. He ws injured between 2002 and 2003 before he left Toronto, but he was playing no less that 73 games between 2004 and 2011, with a few 80 game seasons thrown in.
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Trust the process.
Re: All-time GOAT Shooting guard number 5
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Great college starter
Re: All-time GOAT Shooting guard number 5
Originally Posted by Bankaii
AI>Drexler
In what way exactly? The only edge Iverson has is volume scoring. Drexler was more efficient, a significantly better rebounder and defender, and I'd argue just as good a passer and playmaker. Prime Drexler was putting up 27/8/6/3 on 50%. Drexler twice brought a team to the finals as a first option and won a title as an all-star second option. I don't think Iverson has any case over Drexler honestly.
Last edited by GrapeApe; 11-17-2015 at 08:01 PM.
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Local High School Star
Re: All-time GOAT Shooting guard number 5
Hal Greer is number 5
10x all-star
7x all-nba 2nd plus he was leading scorer on championship team.
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Great college starter
Re: All-time GOAT Shooting guard number 5
Originally Posted by houston
Hal Greer is number 5
10x all-star
7x all-nba 2nd plus he was leading scorer on championship team.
The bolded is factually correct but c'mon.
In the 1967 playoffs:
Greer: 28/6/5 on 43%
Wilt: 22/29/9 on 58%
The gap between Wilt and Greer is >>> the gap between Hakeem and Drexler.
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Local High School Star
Re: All-time GOAT Shooting guard number 5
Originally Posted by GrapeApe
The bolded is factually correct but c'mon.
In the 1967 playoffs:
Greer: 28/6/5 on 43%
Wilt: 22/29/9 on 58%
The gap between Wilt and Greer is >>> the gap between Hakeem and Drexler.
so???
The point Hal Greer was more dominant player than Drexler.
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Great college starter
Re: All-time GOAT Shooting guard number 5
Originally Posted by houston
so???
The point Hal Greer was more dominant player than Drexler.
No he wasn't.
Regular season:
Drexler: 20/6/6 on 47%
Greer: 19/5/4 on 45%
Playoffs:
Drexler: 20/7/6 on 45%
Greer: 20/6/4 on 43%
Last edited by GrapeApe; 11-17-2015 at 08:39 PM.
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Great college starter
Re: All-time GOAT Shooting guard number 5
Originally Posted by houston
so???
The point Hal Greer was more dominant player than Drexler.
On what? Scoring,playmaking,defences,shooting? Drexler has all above Greer .
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Decent college freshman
Re: All-time GOAT Shooting guard number 5
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Decent college freshman
Re: All-time GOAT Shooting guard number 5
Originally Posted by GrapeApe
In what way exactly? The only edge Iverson has is volume scoring. Drexler was more efficient, a significantly better rebounder and defender, and I'd argue just as good a passer and playmaker. Prime Drexler was putting up 27/8/6/3 on 50%. Drexler twice brought a team to the finals as a first option and won a title as an all-star second option. I don't think Iverson has any case over Drexler honestly.
Clyde is more efficient, but you have to remember that the Blazers were a fast break team, while AI spent the majority of his prime on slow paced/half court teams with little to no outside shooting.
As for defense, Clyde is a better man-defender, but AI was the more impactful defender due to his outstanding help defense.
Clyde is the better passer and rebounder though.
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