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Boom Baby!
Re: if pop duncan,manu,tony and coached by pop have played in the 90's..
Originally Posted by robert_shaww
If the 98 Jazz was so close to play a game 7 vs those bulls, then prime spurs should win...
manu is waaaay better than hornacek, prime tony is better than 98 stockton and prime duncan is waaay better than 98 malone. (also better bench, and coach, and leonard / bowen could contain jordan)
How about mentioning a specific Spurs team?
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Local High School Star
Re: if pop duncan,manu,tony and coached by pop have played in the 90's..
Originally Posted by Reggie43
How about mentioning a specific Spurs team?
2005 spurs.
if manu was killing one of the best defensive teams ever in 05....he is beasting against the jazz (hornacek or russell on him) suns (majerle) pacers (reggie) or sonics (hawkins)
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Boom Baby!
Re: if pop duncan,manu,tony and coached by pop have played in the 90's..
Originally Posted by robert_shaww
2005 spurs.
if manu was killing one of the best defensive teams ever in 05....he is beasting against the jazz (hornacek or russell on him) suns (majerle) pacers (reggie) or sonics (hawkins)
Would love to see Manu go up against the Ewing/Oakley/Starks Knicks, what are your thoughts on that matchup?
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Caped Baldy
Re: if duncan,manu,tony and coached by pop have played in the 90's..
Originally Posted by snipes12
Would have they stop the bulls?
No!
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: if pop duncan,manu,tony and coached by pop have played in the 90's..
Originally Posted by robert_shaww
If the 98 Jazz was so close to play a game 7 vs those bulls, then prime spurs should win...
manu is waaaay better than hornacek, prime tony is better than 98 stockton and prime duncan is waaay better than 98 malone. (also better bench, and coach, and leonard / bowen could contain jordan)
I also think the best Spurs teams are better than the 98 Pacers that almost beat the Bulls. I think the Spurs win 2 championships in the 90s.
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Made that high school varsity squad
Re: if pop duncan,manu,tony and coached by pop have played in the 90's..
The 2014 Spurs were their best version, regardless of whether or not Duncan and co. were in their primes.
The league wasn't advanced enough defensively to handle that kind of offense from the Spurs. They'd have won a couple. The 99-08 "Dump it to Duncan" Spurs don't win though, probably WCF or maybe a finals loss.
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Re: if pop duncan,manu,tony and coached by pop have played in the 90's..
Originally Posted by Boarder Patrol
The 2014 Spurs were their best version, regardless of whether or not Duncan and co. were in their primes.
And they were taken to 7 by the 8th seeded Mavericks.
The league wasn't advanced enough defensively to handle that kind of offense from the Spurs.
'14 Spurs wouldn't even be the best offensive team the Bulls faced (and beat) during the 90s. And if they're playing by the 'advanced' defensive rules of today, Jordan averages 45 PPG in the series, easily.
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The Beast In Me
Re: if pop duncan,manu,tony and coached by pop have played in the 90's..
Originally Posted by Boarder Patrol
The 2014 Spurs were their best version, regardless of whether or not Duncan and co. were in their primes.
The league wasn't advanced enough defensively to handle that kind of offense from the Spurs. They'd have won a couple. The 99-08 "Dump it to Duncan" Spurs don't win though, probably WCF or maybe a finals loss.
A lot of those "Dump it down to Duncan" teams were better than those Rockets teams that won though.
02-03 Duncan and 94-95 Hakeem weren't far off each other either way, but the parts around him in certain years were a lot better than Hakeem's. The 05 Spurs probably win in 95, for example.
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Boom Baby!
Re: if pop duncan,manu,tony and coached by pop have played in the 90's..
Originally Posted by T_L_P
A lot of those "Dump it down to Duncan" teams were better than those Rockets teams that won though.
02-03 Duncan and 94-95 Hakeem weren't far off each other either way, but the parts around him in certain years were a lot better than Hakeem's. The 05 Spurs probably win in 95, for example.
Sure the 05 Spurs "could" beat the 95 Rockets but could they have beaten a 57, 59, 60 and 62 win teams enroute to the title in 95?
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Re: if pop duncan,manu,tony and coached by pop have played in the 90's..
05 Spurs and 07 Spurs beat any 90's team.
08 Celtics
01 Lakers
04 Pistons
These two teams beat any team in the 90's too. Jordan's Bulls only beat the Suns and Jazz because they had Jordan and the other two teams had two of the biggest basketball losers ever in Barkley amd Malone. Those two played on one side of the ball only. Malone was a good defender but only on post up situations.
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Not1,Not2,Not3,Not4...
Re: if pop duncan,manu,tony and coached by pop have played in the 90's..
Duncan's reign has lasted 15 years and counting. Jordan's was 8 and was sandwiched by multiple losing seasons on the front and back of his career, something Duncan's never even come close to doing even once.
Duncan's record against Lebron in the Finals is 11-5. Now, I know that Jordan never played anyone in the Finals that much, but I find it hard to believe Jordan would have a record like that against the best players of his generation. (I'm talking proven Champions like Bird or Isaiah, not the times he got to play Malone or Barkley or Drexler or Payton, most of whom became glorified ring-chasers).
Of course the Spurs could have beat the Bulls. Not every year, but some of course.
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Re: if pop duncan,manu,tony and coached by pop have played in the 90's..
Originally Posted by ninephive
Duncan's reign has lasted 15 years and counting. Jordan's was 8 and was sandwiched by multiple losing seasons on the front and back of his career, something Duncan's never even come close to doing even once.
Duncan's record against Lebron in the Finals is 11-5. Now, I know that Jordan never played anyone in the Finals that much, but I find it hard to believe Jordan would have a record like that against the best players of his generation. (I'm talking proven Champions like Bird or Isaiah, not the times he got to play Malone or Barkley or Drexler or Payton, most of whom became glorified ring-chasers).
Of course the Spurs could have beat the Bulls. Not every year, but some of course.
Your biggest issue is you're equating a guy who was outscored in a finals series by a bench player to the GOAT.
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Re: if pop duncan,manu,tony and coached by pop have played in the 90's..
The Bulls would be so confused as to why the Spurs were shooting so many 3's.
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Not1,Not2,Not3,Not4...
Re: if pop duncan,manu,tony and coached by pop have played in the 90's..
AND consider how bad Jordan was in the playoffs his first 5 years:
Jordan (first 5 playoff runs): 13-23, 0 Finals APPEARANCES.
Duncan (first 5 playoff runs): 46-27, 2 NBA Championships, 2 FMVPs.
During those years, the best team Jordan played was the Bird Celtics (1 top 10 player)
During those years, the best team Duncan played was the Kobe/Shaq Lakers (2 top 10 GOATS and the GOAT coach on the SAME TEAM)
And unlike Jordan, Duncan actually ended up beating the toughest teams he faced.
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Not1,Not2,Not3,Not4...
Re: if pop duncan,manu,tony and coached by pop have played in the 90's..
Originally Posted by DonDadda59
Your biggest issue is you're equating a guy who was outscored in a finals series by a bench player to the GOAT.
Who would that be?
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