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    Darrick Martin's Coach bjtrdff's Avatar
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    Default Re: Pacers trade O'neal to Raptors for Ford, Nesterovic, 17th pick

    I just wish we didn't have to wait for July 1st, one way or the other.

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    Default Re: Pacers trade O'neal to Raptors for Ford, Nesterovic, 17th pick

    Also, it's O'Neal, not O'Neil.

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    Default Re: Pacers trade O'neal to Raptors for Ford, Nesterovic, 17th pick

    Quote Originally Posted by bjtrdff
    I just wish we didn't have to wait for July 1st, one way or the other.

    Actually July 9th because of TJ Ford's contract.

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    Default Re: Pacers trade O'Neal to Raptors for Ford, Nesterovic, 17th pick

    anyone hear any news about suns? i know they're interested in making a trade...

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    Default Re: Pacers trade O'Neal to Raptors for Ford, Nesterovic, 17th pick

    Quote Originally Posted by highwhey
    anyone hear any news about suns? i know they're interested in making a trade...
    They traded Stoudemire for Bobby Simmons and pick 37

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    Default Re: Pacers trade O'Neal to Raptors for Ford, Nesterovic, 17th pick

    like what ive said dont be surprise if bird packages tinsley+shawne williams to get someone in the market ... 11th at 17th pickplus tj is surely better than JO considering that granger is really stepping up.

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    Default Re: Pacers trade O'Neal to Raptors for Ford, Nesterovic, 17th pick

    i cant imagine oneal in a raptors jersey...

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    Default Re: Pacers trade O'Neal to Raptors for Ford, Nesterovic, 17th pick

    Quote Originally Posted by selrahc
    i cant imagine oneal in a raptors jersey...


    not too bad

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    Default Re: Pacers trade O'Neal to Raptors for Ford, Nesterovic, 17th pick

    If (and that's a big if) Jermaine is healthy this is a good deal for the raptors but the only thing is neither of these guys are post up players they both play the perimeter so i have my doubts about how that is going to work out. I think they should go after a good swing man or wing player cause they have no good guards in my eyes except for calderon.

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    Default Re: O'Neal-Ford deal looks legit...

    O'neal's a very talented player, no doubt about that...great post moves, solid rebounder, nice defender...but those things aren't going to matter if he doesn't play to his full potential. I have no idea why he takes low% jumpshots rather than showcasing his amazing post moves/footwork, but the Raptors better figure out why, and get him back in gear. If the Raptors are getting the JO of the past couple years, then this trade is questionnable for the Raptors. If JO can get motivated and learn his role beside Bosh, then the rest of the East better be prepared for one scary frontcourt(O'neal, Bosh, Moon or Kapono?).

    Also, have the Pacers finally given up on Tinsley? What's the next move for the Pacers?

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    Default Re: Pacers trade O'Neal to Raptors for Ford, Nesterovic, 17th pick

    Smart trade for both teams.

    Indiana gets a good rebuilding package as well as a decent replacement to an injury prone and old Jamaal Tinsley.

    Toronto gets bigger to try and compete with the likes of Boston's KG/Perkins, LA's Drew/Pau.

    Not a bad gamble on Jermaine who seems to have lost a step due to injuries.

    Thats also two defensive players down low.

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    Default Re: Pacers trade O'Neal to Raptors for Ford, Nesterovic, 17th pick

    Man, I have mixed feelings about this trade. It's a HUGE gamble. If O'neal can stay healthy, and return to all-star form, it's a great trade. If not, it's a disaster that will set this franchise further back.

    I'm highly skeptical of O'Neal being able to stay healthy.

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    Default Re: Pacers trade O'Neal to Raptors for Ford, Nesterovic, 17th pick

    Quote Originally Posted by Kujo
    Man, I have mixed feelings about this trade. It's a HUGE gamble. If O'neal can stay healthy, and return to all-star form, it's a great trade. If not, it's a disaster that will set this franchise further back.

    I'm highly skeptical of O'Neal being able to stay healthy.
    Even a non healthy JO is better then a healthy Rasho.

    and TJ ford was only hurting the team with his attitude and shoot first mentality.

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    Default Re: Pacers trade O'Neal to Raptors for Ford, Nesterovic, 17th pick

    Quote Originally Posted by Trax416
    Even a non healthy JO is better then a healthy Rasho.

    and TJ ford was only hurting the team with his attitude and shoot first mentality.
    Even if O'Neal plays less than 50 games? I could live with at least 65 games. This trade is a failure if O'Neal isn't in the line-up on a consistent basis.

    I know we had to get rid of Ford, but I think there were potential better deals.

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    Default Re: Pacers trade O'Neal to Raptors for Ford, Nesterovic, 17th pick

    Quote Originally Posted by Trax416
    Even a non healthy JO is better then a healthy Rasho.

    and TJ ford was only hurting the team with his attitude and shoot first mentality.
    A non healthy JO is sitting on the bench in a suit (he's a snazzy dresser btw, you'll come to see this Toronto), so a healthy Rasho is quite obviously better.

    What attitude from TJ Ford? What shoot first mentality? Still put up 6+ apg (3/1 a:to) in just under 24mpg. 10 FGA per game on 46%. If Calderon hadn't emerged, would Ford even be on the block?

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