In their prime: Kobe Bryant vs. Tracy McGrady

[KenneBell]

I'm not even gonna look it up, but Kobe wasn't gettin 28/6/6/2 in 2000.

No but he was at 28.5/6/5/2 in '01.

[YAWN]

I'm not even gonna look it up, but Kobe wasn't gettin 28/6/6/2 in 2000.

ah you mean the 99-00 season.

yea just 23/6/5/2 + all d and all nba team.

[L.Kizzle]

ah you mean the 99-00 season.

yea just 23/6/5/2 + all d and all nba team.

Which is good but not great.

[Abraham Lincoln]

If that's the case, did we really see Kobe at his peak? I mean, those knee surgeries did take some of his athleticism away. Kobe never really had the same quickness or explosiveness after the '03 season. I couldn't imagine him with that athleticism and his '06 skills.

Alas, thou must know his peak was 2003, the mere difference being his suppourting teammates. There be no differential in the player that was Kobe Bryant during the 2003 and 2006 seasons, apart from the decreased knee mobility. The mere creedence of this being all but true shan't exist any longer.

[andgar923]

If that's the case, did we really see Kobe at his peak? I mean, those knee surgeries did take some of his athleticism away. Kobe never really had the same quickness or explosiveness after the '03 season. I couldn't imagine him with that athleticism and his '06 skills.

True.... but Tmac's injuries were more severe and consistent.

Either way

I thought Tmac was better for the period he was healthy. Not by much, but still better.



I think defensively they were about the same, Tmac was a better (and more willing passer), I give the slight edge on Tmac when it came to off the dribble for one reason:

bigs used to defend him more

Otherwise they were a draw, I think they were even as far as their mid range game and shooting, but Tmac had a clear advantage in the post. Yes he was taller, but he was also good and was a more willing passer.

So advantage Tmac.

[plowking]

Great or really good? Kobe wasn't great in 2000.

Kobe has 7 really good seasons. For example 25ppg, 5apg, 5rpg type seasons, varying depending on the production in each category.

T-Mac has about 5. Though you look at his FG% and realize he less then 44% in 2 of those.

He's really only had 3 great years, compared to Kobe's 7.

Prime is not peak. Peak is peak. Prime is a level of play for a certain time where you are at your best. If comparing primes, Kobe is better. Longevity and numbers wise.

Furthermore, Kobe's peak is better. His best year was better then McGrady's.

[jmill]

Great or really good? Kobe wasn't great in 2000.

9 seasons would start with his 00-01 season in which he averaged 28/6/5.

The season you're referring to isn't relevant to plowking's statement.

[bdreason]

I'de have to say Kobe... but it's close.


Kobe was/is a much more consistant player though. Despite puting TONS of minutes on the court, Kobe has managed to sustain great play for years.

[All Net]

People forget just how great T-mac was in his early Orlando days...guy was really a great player.

[lefthook00]

They were both the same player back then, but one was taller and a little smoother, and the other was shorter and and a littler more quick, which resulted in slightly different playing styles on the court. T-Mac was silkier earlier, but Kobe surpassed him a little later.

[noob cake]

T-Mac in his prime was twice the player ever Kobe was/is.

Too bad T-Mac dropped off considerably, and Kobe has been fantastic for almost a decade.

[xtn5021]

Kobe prime vs. T-Mac prime? Definitely T-Mac. Dude was a BEAST in his prime. Not saying that Kobe isn't a beast in his prime. But T-mac's prime is way better than Kobe's. Just saying. *Tries to dodge trolls...*

[YAWN]

Kobe prime vs. T-Mac prime? Definitely T-Mac. Dude was a BEAST in his prime. Not saying that Kobe isn't a beast in his prime. But T-mac's prime is way better than Kobe's. Just saying. *Tries to dodge trolls...*

what are you breaking down prime to?

best back to back seasons goes to kobe.
best season goes to kobe.
best month goes to kobe.
best game goes to kobe.
best half goes to kobe
best quarter goes to kobe
best minute goes to Tmac

[jmill]

T-Mac in his prime was twice the player ever Kobe was/is.

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[plowking]

McGrady use to be one of my favorite players. Though his 3 seasons of "greatness" have him vastly overrated on ISH. Better then Kobe? He wasn't close. 3 great seasons don't put you close to someone who has sustained all time great numbers over a decade.