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Old 06-14-2019, 06:12 PM   #31
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You see, this is when they shoot themselves in the foot. Any time Kawhit scores a basket they sprint to their computers to tell us so and make threads he's surpassed him, that guy and the third, but once he does bad they ignore it. And with that, they admit that Kawhit isn't up to the same standards and thus hasn't done much to be compared to the greatest player of all time that is LeBron James.

they revert back to "STATS!!" whenever they dont like something as obvious as this
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Old 06-14-2019, 06:21 PM   #32
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Better than LeBron in 2011.

op set himself up badly on this one.

arb, brudda... have you not read lestan manual?

what are you doing bruh?

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Old 06-14-2019, 06:22 PM   #33
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op set himself up badly on this one.

arb, brudda... have you not read lestan manual?

what are you doing bruh?


sorry, not giving you guys the satisfaction of not having to explain your backfiring rooting interests and projections
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Old 06-14-2019, 06:23 PM   #34
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Old 06-14-2019, 06:23 PM   #35
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8E_zMLCRNg
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Old 06-14-2019, 06:24 PM   #36
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Old 06-14-2019, 06:24 PM   #37
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Old 06-14-2019, 06:54 PM   #38
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Why did you leave out '07?

LeBron in '07 in the 4th Q's - 9.8 PPG on 45%

Why did you leave out '13?

LeBron in '13 in the 4th Q's - 7.7 PPG on 56%

Why did you leave out '15?

LeBron in '15 in the 4th Q's - 10.2 PPG on 40%

Why did you leave out '16?

LeBron in '16 in the 4th Q's - 9.5 PPG on 50%

Why did you leave out '18?

LeBron in the 4th Q's in '18 - 8.8 PPG on 63.2 PPG

You don't get it - ONE FINALS is all it takes to get a bad reputation in 4th quarters

And Lebron has 3 Finals where he averaged 3-5 pts in the 4th..... THREE finals - that's 2 more than is needed to earn a bad rep for 4th quarter play

Otoh - in 1997 and 1998, MJ averaged at least than 8.3 pts in the 4th for every conference finals or Finals... Infact, 8.3 was his lowest for every series in the 97' or 98' playoffs, except a 5-game blowout series in the 97' ECSF



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Not to mention that he's more clutch in the PO's that either of them with 24 seconds left.


Yeah right - he rarely hits compared to MJ


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Lebron's stats late in tight games (clutch stats).


Playoff shots in last 5 minutes, within 5 points, since 2001


134-323 for Lebron.. 41.4%
108 games.. 3.0 attempts per game

https://www.basketball-reference.com...by=date_g ame


Jordan 1997 Playoffs:. 20-39.. 51.3% (11 games)
Jordan 1998 Playoffs:. 22-50.. 44.0% (14 games)

42-89 for MJ.. 47.2%
25 games.. 3.6 attempts per game..


So old MJ shot much better in tight games on 20% more clutch attempts..



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LeBron has more buzzer beaters in the PO's than Jordan.

Lebron's frequency of game-winners is poor compared to MJ, and none of his winners are late in the series or in the championship - lebron only hits "low-leverage" winners, while MJ has several legendary, all-time great winners


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LeBron in the '14 Finals was better than Ordan in '96. Only difference is that Ordan had two FMVP level players in Rodman and Pippen to save him.

Pippen averaged 15 on 34% in the 96' Finals - the worst 2nd option performance in the history of the Finals

But MJ still won because he scores with great teamwork, while Lebron's stats are achieved with bad teamwork
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Old 06-14-2019, 08:29 PM   #39
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You don't get it - ONE FINALS is all it takes to get a bad reputation in 4th quarters

And Lebron has 3 Finals where he averaged 3-5 pts in the 4th..... THREE finals - that's 2 more than is needed to earn a bad rep for 4th quarter play

Otoh - in 1997 and 1998, MJ averaged at least than 8.3 pts in the 4th for every conference finals or Finals... Infact, 8.3 was his lowest for every series in the 97' or 98' playoffs, except a 5-game blowout series in the 97' ECSF





Yeah right - he rarely hits compared to MJ




Playoff shots in last 5 minutes, within 5 points, since 2001


134-323 for Lebron.. 41.4%
108 games.. 3.0 attempts per game

https://www.basketball-reference.com...by=date_g ame


Jordan 1997 Playoffs:. 20-39.. 51.3% (11 games)
Jordan 1998 Playoffs:. 22-50.. 44.0% (14 games)

42-89 for MJ.. 47.2%
25 games.. 3.6 attempts per game..


So old MJ shot much better in tight games on 20% more clutch attempts..




Lebron's frequency of game-winners is poor compared to MJ, and none of his winners are late in the series or in the championship - lebron only hits "low-leverage" winners, while MJ has several legendary, all-time great winners



Pippen averaged 15 on 34% in the 96' Finals - the worst 2nd option performance in the history of the Finals

But MJ still won because he scores with great teamwork, while Lebron's stats are achieved with bad teamwork

You're talking to a kid. They didnt broadcast the games in India, where he's from, during the 90s, so he never watched a single game that you're talking about. So he can discuss box scores with you. But not the games.
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Old 06-14-2019, 08:52 PM   #40
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Did it result in a championship and Finals MVP? Ok, then.
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Old 06-15-2019, 04:20 AM   #41
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You don't get it - ONE FINALS is all it takes to get a bad reputation in 4th quarters
That's not how basketball works, you autistic fuck. Duncan has almost always been bad in the 4th Q's in the Finals. Has ANYONE ever brought that up? Kobe was absolutely dreadful in the 4th Q's of the vast majority of his Finals. Did you ever bring that up?

Heck, your lover shot 37.5% in the '98 Finals in the 4th Q's. So, does he have a bad reputation in the 4th Q's, retard?

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And Lebron has 3 Finals where he averaged 3-5 pts in the 4th..... THREE finals - that's 2 more than is needed to earn a bad rep for 4th quarter play
Again, that's not how any of this works. '11 was legit bad and I not even going to touch that. In '14 and '17, most of the games were blowouts. If LeBron actually scored a bunch of points in the 4th Q's, after the game were already done, you'd be having a bitch fit over here, crying about how LeBron statpadded.

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Otoh - in 1997 and 1998, MJ averaged at least than 8.3 pts in the 4th for every conference finals or Finals... Infact, 8.3 was his lowest for every series in the 97' or 98' playoffs, except a 5-game blowout series in the 97' ECSF
Care to post the shooting percentages? Love how you posted the shooting percentages for LeBron and Kawhi, but chose to ignore it for Ordan in '98. Also love how you changed it from just the Finals to now including the conference Finals. Do you want to bring up the 4 PPG on 30% from the '97 2nd round?



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Yeah right - he rarely hits compared to MJ


[quote=3ball]Playoff shots in last 5 minutes, within 5 points, since 2001


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134-323 for Lebron.. 41.4%
108 games.. 3.0 attempts per game

https://www.basketball-reference.com...by=date_g ame


Jordan 1997 Playoffs:. 20-39.. 51.3% (11 games)
Jordan 1998 Playoffs:. 22-50.. 44.0% (14 games)

42-89 for MJ.. 47.2%
25 games.. 3.6 attempts per game..


So old MJ shot much better in tight games on 20% more clutch attempts..
Why are you arbitrarily cutting it off at the last 5 minutes? Lets look at the final 5 seconds, when it really matters.

LeBron - 6 makes on 13 attempts with 5 seconds left on go ahead shots

46%

Jordan - 5 makes on 11 attempts with 5 seconds left on go ahead shots

45%

Also, you keep doing this and you always keep getting called out for it, you basement dwelling retard. LeBron shot 41.79% in the final 5 minutes of the 4th Q's. You're making up numbers again, thinking that no one's going to check.



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Pippen averaged 15 on 34% in the 96' Finals - the worst 2nd option performance in the history of the Finals
And Rodman stepped up and was getting FMVP talks. I really wonder how the voting went that year for the Finals MVP.

https://www.nytimes.com/1996/06/08/s...able-bull.html

Lets not forget that Pippen was getting FMVP talks in '98.


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But MJ still won because he scores with great teamwork, while Lebron's stats are achieved with bad teamwork
MJ won because he was carried by Pippen. There's a reason why he never made it out of the first round or was in the lottery without Pippen.


Lets ignore all this for a minute and go back to your original shit post. Why did you cherrypick those years for LeBron?

Why not these:

Why did you leave out '07?

LeBron in '07 in the 4th Q's - 9.8 PPG on 45%

Why did you leave out '13?

LeBron in '13 in the 4th Q's - 7.7 PPG on 56%

Why did you leave out '15?

LeBron in '15 in the 4th Q's - 10.2 PPG on 40%

Why did you leave out '16?

LeBron in '16 in the 4th Q's - 9.5 PPG on 50%

Why did you leave out '18?

LeBron in the 4th Q's in '18 - 8.8 PPG on 63.2 PPG

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You're talking to a kid. They didnt broadcast the games in India, where he's from, during the 90s, so he never watched a single game that you're talking about. So he can discuss box scores with you. But not the games.
Are you still on the rag, little girl? Run along now, the adults are talking.
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Old 06-15-2019, 04:29 AM   #42
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Look at the meltdown by the curry eating kid.
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Look at the meltdown by the curry eating kid.
Still crying, little girl?
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Have some curry.
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Have some curry.

Man, that's cold. Don't do him like that.
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