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Old 06-13-2011, 01:50 PM   #46
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no everyone doesnt... thats the point YOU are missing... I know alot of older fans who dont buy into this stuff

Most do. Look at the polls ESPN tallied up. You are dead wrong, come back to reality.
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Old 06-13-2011, 01:56 PM   #47
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lol a hardworking player DESERVES a ring. Like Dirk. A player who wants the easy way to one doesnt. Like Lebron.


you think Dirk is the first hard working player in the league? what about Pat Ewing? he was hard working..

nobody worked harder than Reggie Miller

they didnt win....

you know why? because the game doesnt work like that.... You dont win based on whether or not you deserve it... You win when you get it done..

nobody was saying Dirk deserved in 06.. they calling him a choker and a softee...


there is no such thing as "deserving a title"



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And him quitting and costing the city a shot at a ring is a legit excuse to hate him.


your owner cost you a championship son...

thats the part that makes me most sad about cleveland.. they dont even hold the right people accountable..
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Old 06-13-2011, 01:57 PM   #48
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Most do. Look at the polls ESPN tallied up. You are dead wrong, come back to reality.

ESPN tallied it up huh? yeah that proves what everyone thinks..

but Im the one who isnt living in reality...
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Old 06-13-2011, 02:03 PM   #49
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your owner cost you a championship son...

thats the part that makes me most sad about cleveland.. they dont even hold the right people accountable..

Who was bailed out Game 1 vs Boston last year? LeBron - of all people by Mo Williams. Who completely quit Game 5 last year when his team had the chance to go up and be in position to eliminate Boston? Enough with revisionist history. Cleveland fans (like most who don't pull for Miami/LeBron) don't dislike him for leaving; they dislike that he QUIT when the going got tough all while making a total mockery of his franchise and their fanbase on live television.
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your owner cost you a championship son...

thats the part that makes me most sad about cleveland.. they dont even hold the right people accountable..

Forget the championship, LeBron fvcked the organization over. You do realize that he played it off like he was staying, and then left, and we got basically NOTHING in return, right?
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Old 06-13-2011, 02:05 PM   #51
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Who was bailed out Game 1 vs Boston last year? LeBron - of all people by Mo Williams.

Huh? LeBron scored 35 in that game, 12 of those in the 4th qtr.
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Old 06-13-2011, 02:05 PM   #52
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ESPN tallied it up huh? yeah that proves what everyone thinks..

but Im the one who isnt living in reality...

Yup, just ESPN. That's clearly what I said. Try forbes, polls on TNT, polls on CNN, or even better, make a poll on this forum and see what the results would be.

LeBron has more detractors than he has fans. Especially after these Finals. People who don't root for Miami, just like Cleveland, were laughing their asses off watching LeBron choke. Why deny reality?
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Huh? LeBron scored 35 in that game, 12 of those in the 4th qtr.

That's my bad. I meant Game 1 of the Bulls series.
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your owner cost you a championship son...

thats the part that makes me most sad about cleveland.. they dont even hold the right people accountable..


so who cost the Heat a ring?
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Old 06-13-2011, 02:17 PM   #55
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Mavs earn title in ways James, Heat can’t match. “Billions” happy. It’s not the Heat, it’s the temerity.

The roles did not have to be forced for the sake of the story.

The Mavericks were easy to like. They had suffered long and greatly. They had shown their pain and paid their dues. They had a star, Dirk Nowitzki, who stayed with his team in the summer of LeBron and The Decision. He and Jason Kidd had played in more playoff games than any players still in the league without winning a title, and they seemed to succeed with heavy doses of work and sacrifice.

Few could relate to the Heat, as LeBron James petulantly reminded when he said his life was still better than pretty much everyone’s.

They spun it to say they had sacrificed shots and money in the name of winning, but it still seemed that they joined forces to do it the relatively easy way, to skip steps if only because players as great as James and Dwyane Wade should not need the other to win championships.

Teams suffer first, and Dallas kept on suffering. But more than that, they seemed to win because they grew stronger through their failures, triumphing with their hearts and minds as much as their gifts.

They played that role well.

“I’m so proud of what our team stood for,” Dallas coach Rick Carlisle said. “I kept having people come up to me the last three or four days, “Hey, there’s billions of people rooting for you guys.” And we could feel it. We could feel it. We knew it was very important that we won this series for those reasons. Because of what the game is about, and what the game should stand for.

“This is one of the really unique teams. It wasn’t about high‑flying star power. Come on, how often do we have to hear about the LeBron James reality show and what he is or isn’t doing? When are people going to talk about the purity of our game and what these guys accomplished? That’s what’s special. And I played with Larry Bird, I played with Bill Walton, I played with Robert Parish, I played with Dennis Johnson. I played with the all‑time greats. And Dirk is up there with that upper, upper echelon of great players.”

The debate about where he belongs among the greats will go on, but this series also demonstrated why championship rings are part of the discussion.

With the games on the line, Nowitzki rose to those occasions. Even when he could not shoot well in the 102-degree fever game or in Sunday’s John Stark-ish first half, in the final minutes, he reached greatness.

For all of LeBron James’ spectacular gifts, in those final minutes, he came up short.

This simple count of championships won always seemed an insufficient way to rate and compare players, if only because there are so many other considerations, so much more to discuss even if only for the fun of the argument.

When discussing the best of the best, however, it has to be a large part of how they are measured. They are the players most responsible for lifting their teams to greatness. Others must excel, too, as the Mavericks demonstrated. But there is a time when the best players must be at their best.

James wasn’t. He averaged a record nine fewer points in the Finals than he had in the regular season. Not five. Not six. Not seven… And he still does not seem to get it.

“I mean, sometimes you got it, sometimes you don’t,” James said. “And that was this case in this series. I was able to do things in the last two series to help us win ballgames. Wasn’t able to do that in this series. Once you get to the playoffs, every game is pressure. You want to win. You have to win. And I mean, we’ve seen some of that in the Chicago series, we seen some of that in the Boston series. Even though we lost Game 4, we lost Game 4 in Philly, there’s pressure in that series as well.”

That’s very nice. It’s good that he was very good against other teams. He added later that yes, “it hurts.”

Moments later, however, he trash talked those that were happy to see the Heat lose, ignoring that they brought all that on themselves.

“At the end of the day, all the people that was rooting on me to fail, at the end of the day they have to wake up tomorrow and have the same life that they had before they woke up today,” James said. “They have the same personal problems they had today. I’m going to continue to live the way I want to live and continue to do the things that I want to do with me and my family and be happy with that.

“They can get a few days or a few months or whatever the case may be on being happy about not only myself, but the Miami Heat not accomplishing their goal, but they have to get back to the real world at some point.”

When it comes to rooting against Miami, it’s not the Heat, it’s the temerity.

It would seem foolish, however, to conclude that he will not develope the fortitude and toughness that beat him, just as those that labeled Nowitzki were wrong before he proved it.

For now, however, the Mavericks won a championship because they earned it, not just in winning four of six games of the Finals, but in all the years they suffered and persevered. The Heat has not done that just by living in a spotlight they turned on themselves. They also could not beat it.

http://blog.chron.com/nba/2011/06/ma...-the-temerity/

“It’s not the Heat, it’s the temerity”. GREAT LINE.

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Old 06-13-2011, 02:18 PM   #56
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Old 06-13-2011, 02:18 PM   #57
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Forget the championship, LeBron fvcked the organization over. You do realize that he played it off like he was staying, and then left, and we got basically NOTHING in return, right?
What could Cleveland get if Lebron announced his decision to go to Miami earlier?
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Old 06-13-2011, 02:18 PM   #58
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Mavs earn title in ways James, Heat can’t match. “Billions” happy. It’s not the Heat, it’s the temerity.

The roles did not have to be forced for the sake of the story.

The Mavericks were easy to like. They had suffered long and greatly. They had shown their pain and paid their dues. They had a star, Dirk Nowitzki, who stayed with his team in the summer of LeBron and The Decision. He and Jason Kidd had played in more playoff games than any players still in the league without winning a title, and they seemed to succeed with heavy doses of work and sacrifice.

Few could relate to the Heat, as LeBron James petulantly reminded when he said his life was still better than pretty much everyone’s.

They spun it to say they had sacrificed shots and money in the name of winning, but it still seemed that they joined forces to do it the relatively easy way, to skip steps if only because players as great as James and Dwyane Wade should not need the other to win championships.

Teams suffer first, and Dallas kept on suffering. But more than that, they seemed to win because they grew stronger through their failures, triumphing with their hearts and minds as much as their gifts.

They played that role well.

“I’m so proud of what our team stood for,” Dallas coach Rick Carlisle said. “I kept having people come up to me the last three or four days, “Hey, there’s billions of people rooting for you guys.” And we could feel it. We could feel it. We knew it was very important that we won this series for those reasons. Because of what the game is about, and what the game should stand for.

“This is one of the really unique teams. It wasn’t about high‑flying star power. Come on, how often do we have to hear about the LeBron James reality show and what he is or isn’t doing? When are people going to talk about the purity of our game and what these guys accomplished? That’s what’s special. And I played with Larry Bird, I played with Bill Walton, I played with Robert Parish, I played with Dennis Johnson. I played with the all‑time greats. And Dirk is up there with that upper, upper echelon of great players.”

The debate about where he belongs among the greats will go on, but this series also demonstrated why championship rings are part of the discussion.

With the games on the line, Nowitzki rose to those occasions. Even when he could not shoot well in the 102-degree fever game or in Sunday’s John Stark-ish first half, in the final minutes, he reached greatness.

For all of LeBron James’ spectacular gifts, in those final minutes, he came up short.

This simple count of championships won always seemed an insufficient way to rate and compare players, if only because there are so many other considerations, so much more to discuss even if only for the fun of the argument.

When discussing the best of the best, however, it has to be a large part of how they are measured. They are the players most responsible for lifting their teams to greatness. Others must excel, too, as the Mavericks demonstrated. But there is a time when the best players must be at their best.

James wasn’t. He averaged a record nine fewer points in the Finals than he had in the regular season. Not five. Not six. Not seven… And he still does not seem to get it.

“I mean, sometimes you got it, sometimes you don’t,” James said. “And that was this case in this series. I was able to do things in the last two series to help us win ballgames. Wasn’t able to do that in this series. Once you get to the playoffs, every game is pressure. You want to win. You have to win. And I mean, we’ve seen some of that in the Chicago series, we seen some of that in the Boston series. Even though we lost Game 4, we lost Game 4 in Philly, there’s pressure in that series as well.”

That’s very nice. It’s good that he was very good against other teams. He added later that yes, “it hurts.”

Moments later, however, he trash talked those that were happy to see the Heat lose, ignoring that they brought all that on themselves.

“At the end of the day, all the people that was rooting on me to fail, at the end of the day they have to wake up tomorrow and have the same life that they had before they woke up today,” James said. “They have the same personal problems they had today. I’m going to continue to live the way I want to live and continue to do the things that I want to do with me and my family and be happy with that.

“They can get a few days or a few months or whatever the case may be on being happy about not only myself, but the Miami Heat not accomplishing their goal, but they have to get back to the real world at some point.”

When it comes to rooting against Miami, it’s not the Heat, it’s the temerity.

It would seem foolish, however, to conclude that he will not develope the fortitude and toughness that beat him, just as those that labeled Nowitzki were wrong before he proved it.

For now, however, the Mavericks won a championship because they earned it, not just in winning four of six games of the Finals, but in all the years they suffered and persevered. The Heat has not done that just by living in a spotlight they turned on themselves. They also could not beat it.

http://blog.chron.com/nba/2011/06/ma...-the-temerity/

“It’s not the Heat, it’s the temerity”. GREAT LINE.

comments there are good too

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so who cost the Heat a ring?


looks to me like the Dallas Mavericks did that


as far as Miami goes I blame Lebron for not attacking the zone enough... but I really blame Miami's coach.... the Mavs made an adjustment when they started Barea.. they also obviously got into Jason Terry's ear and helped him figure out a way to be effective.. they adjusted...Miami never.. they didnt adjust to Barea starting and they didnt adjust to the zone or to whatever was keeping Lebron from attacking the hoop..
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billions arround the world laughing as LeBron loses

ass-hole .. "Crazy. Karma is a b*tch. Gets you every time. God sees everything!"



what an A-hole.
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