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Old 11-11-2014, 01:52 AM   #1
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Default Kawhi Leonard hasn't even scratched his potential yet...

Worth every dollar of the max

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Old 11-11-2014, 02:02 AM   #2
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Old 11-11-2014, 02:08 AM   #3
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will be spurs best player this season. book it.
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Old 11-11-2014, 02:21 AM   #4
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He's the next Shawn Marion. Depending on how you feel about Marion I guess he's either underrated or underrated.

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Old 11-11-2014, 02:23 AM   #5
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He's the next Shawn Marion. Depending on how you feel about Leonard I guess he's either underrated or underrated.

He's got way better handles, iso ability, and shot mechanics.
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Old 11-11-2014, 02:23 AM   #6
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He's the next Shawn Marion. Depending on how you feel about Leonard I guess he's either underrated or underrated.

he is more big time player than marion and play lock down defence
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Old 11-11-2014, 02:26 AM   #7
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What is his ceiling?
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Old 11-11-2014, 02:29 AM   #8
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He's got way better handles, iso ability
Extreme exaggeration. And I thought the Paul George hype the last 2 seasons from Kobe / Pacer stans was laying it on thick ...

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he is more big time player than marion and play lock down defence


Yeah...Shawn Marion has been playing lock down defense his whole career.
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Old 11-11-2014, 02:32 AM   #10
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Extreme exaggeration. And I thought the Paul George hype was laying it on thick ...


It's really not.. Kawhis iso ability and handles are average maybe very slightly above average. Marions are both extremely below average.
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Old 11-11-2014, 02:40 AM   #11
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What is his ceiling?
Ceiling to me means what that player can become under 100% perfect circumstances in terms of situation, guidance, work ethic, mindset, etc. What that player would be if he maxed out every single aspect of his game. If we consider that..Kawhi's ceiling is pretty damn high, imo. People are quick to temper expectations and I don't see why, when we're talking about a player's ceiling..it's called a ceiling for a reason. In no way does it mean that player will actually reach it.

For Kawhi I think it's something like a more scoring-oriented version of a slightly poor man's Scottie Pippen. Less natural playmaking vision, slightly better scoring capability.

Odds are he won't reach it, in fact I'm positive he won't, but that's his absolute maximum potential imo. Again, if everything goes 100% perfectly in his development.

A more realistic comparison I think would be a humble, sane version of prime Artest with better scoring/shooting. Which to me is a monster of a two-way player, 20-22 ppg on offense and DPOY level perimeter defense.

He's only 23..this dude has potentially 6-7 years left to improve and when you have Gregg Popovich coaching you, Timmy D, Manu, Parker, etc to learn from, the value of those 6-7 years are taken to another level entirely.
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Kiwi will get the max (or near) and he is worth it.
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Old 11-11-2014, 02:42 AM   #13
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Ceiling to me means what that player can become under 100% perfect circumstances in terms of situation, guidance, work ethic, mindset, etc. What that player would be if he maxed out every single aspect of his game. If we consider that..Kawhi's ceiling is pretty damn high, imo. People are quick to temper expectations and I don't see why, when we're talking about a player's ceiling..it's called a ceiling for a reason. In no way does it mean that player will actually reach it.

For Kawhi I think it's something like a more scoring-oriented version of a slightly poor man's Scottie Pippen. Less natural playmaking vision, slightly better scoring capability.

Odds are he won't reach it, in fact I'm positive he won't, but that's his absolute maximum potential imo. Again, if everything goes 100% perfectly in his development.

A more realistic comparison I think would be a humble, sane version of prime Artest with better scoring/shooting. Which to me is a monster of a two-way player, 20-22 ppg on offense and DPOY level perimeter defense.

He's only 23..this dude has potentially 6-7 years left to improve and when you have Gregg Popovich coaching you, Timmy D, Manu, Parker, etc to learn from, the value of those 6-7 years are taken to another level entirely.

I agree with your entire post.
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Yeah...Shawn Marion has been playing lock down defense his whole career.

more low post defender
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Old 11-11-2014, 03:07 AM   #15
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Default Re: Kawhi Leonard hasn't even scratched his potential yet...

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Ceiling to me means what that player can become under 100% perfect circumstances in terms of situation, guidance, work ethic, mindset, etc. What that player would be if he maxed out every single aspect of his game. If we consider that..Kawhi's ceiling is pretty damn high, imo. People are quick to temper expectations and I don't see why, when we're talking about a player's ceiling..it's called a ceiling for a reason. In no way does it mean that player will actually reach it.

For Kawhi I think it's something like a more scoring-oriented version of a slightly poor man's Scottie Pippen. Less natural playmaking vision, slightly better scoring capability.

Odds are he won't reach it, in fact I'm positive he won't, but that's his absolute maximum potential imo. Again, if everything goes 100% perfectly in his development.

A more realistic comparison I think would be a humble, sane version of prime Artest with better scoring/shooting. Which to me is a monster of a two-way player, 20-22 ppg on offense and DPOY level perimeter defense.

He's only 23..this dude has potentially 6-7 years left to improve and when you have Gregg Popovich coaching you, Timmy D, Manu, Parker, etc to learn from, the value of those 6-7 years are taken to another level entirely.

Great poast.



I agree. Better version of artest.
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