Another LeBron thread. (Bird>LeBron)

[305Baller]

Alright now I know you're clearly trolling

Im not trolling. I said the HGH thing in jest. I just know Bird is more reliable.

[Im Still Ballin]

Im not trolling. I say the HGH thing in jest. I just know Bird is more reliable.

Reliable at what? Making a free throw? Sure. But Jose Caulderon is even more reliable.

[305Baller]

Reliable at what? Making a free throw? Sure. But Jose Caulderon is even more reliable.

What is with your fascination with Calderon?

Larry Bird was just a more complete player. LeBrons all around game with Jordan's killer instinct and Ray Allen's shooting.

[sportjames23]

LeBron's an awesome player. This generation's Wilt. But not the crafty marksman that is the best SF of all-time. Who's clutch hijinx inspired generations of NBA legions.

LeBron's awesome...but Larry Bird was the better basketball player.

Damned him with faint praises.

[knicksman]

NBA Championships and Seasons

NBA Championships
Larry Bird 3
LeBron James 2

NBA Seasons

Larry Bird 13
LeBron James 12

Playoffs Played

Larry Bird 12
LeBron James 9

All-Star Games

Larry Bird 12
LeBron James 11

Honors and Awards

Season MVP

Larry Bird 3
LeBron James 4

Finals MVP

Larry Bird 2
LeBron James 2

All-NBA First Team

Larry Bird 9
LeBron James 8

All-NBA Teams
(Total Selections)

Larry Bird 10
LeBron James 10

All-Defensive First Team

Larry Bird 0
LeBron James 5

All-Defensive Teams

Larry Bird 3
LeBron James 6

Scoring Leader

Larry Bird 0
LeBron James 1

Rookie of The Year

Larry Bird 1
LeBron James 1

Lebron and Bird (Regular Season, Playoffs, and Finals Stats)

Lebron James

Regular Season

27.4 ppg on 49.6 FG%, 7.2 rpg, 6.9 apg, 1.7 spg, 0.8 bpg

Playoffs

28.1 ppg on 48.2 FG%, 8.5 rpg, 6.5 apg, 1.7 spg, and 0.9 bpg.

Finals Stats

24.3 ppg, 8.8 rpg, 6.4 apg, 1.8 spg, 0.6 bpg, 3.8 tov, 46.3 FG%, 76.1 FT%, 54.6 TS%

Larry Bird

Regular Season

24.3 ppg on 49.6 FG%, 10.0 rpg, 6.3 apg, 1.7 spg, and 0.8 bpg

Playoffs

23.8 ppg on 47.2 FG%, 10.3 rpg, 6.5 apg, 1.8 spg, 0.9 bpg

Finals

23.1 ppg, 11.6 rpg, 6.0 apg, 2.0 spg, 0.8 bpg, 2.9 tov, 45.6 FG%, 87.2 FT%, 53.4 TS%

http://www.landofbasketball.com/play...bron_james.htm


Totals Stats (Regular Season)

Total Points
Larry Bird 21,791
LeBron James 24,481

Total Rebounds
Larry Bird 8,974
LeBron James 6,638

Total Assists
Larry Bird 5,695
LeBron James 6,152

Total Steals
Larry Bird 1,556
LeBron James 1,552

Total Blocks
Larry Bird 755
LeBron James 710

Total Games
Larry Bird 897
LeBron James 891

Totals Stats (Playoffs)

Total Points
Larry Bird 3,897
LeBron James 4,419

Total Rebounds
Larry Bird 1,683
LeBron James 1,332

Total Assists
Larry Bird 1,062
LeBron James 1,019

Total Steals
Larry Bird 296
LeBron James 273

Total Blocks
Larry Bird 145
LeBron James 139

Total Games
Larry Bird 164
LeBron James 158

3>>2

[ArbitraryWater]

Last night's game made you revise your LeBron/Bird comparison

What the hell is happening to people.... ISH at its best.

[305Baller]

Last night's game made you revise your LeBron/Bird comparison

What the hell is happening to people.... ISH at its best.

It may seem like a knee-jerk reaction, and maybe it is. But just the overall body of work for LeBron at this point is making me reconsider his position. He has just never been the guy to consistently take over when needed. He can do it in flashes but not at the level Bird displayed.

[ArbitraryWater]

It may seem like a knee-jerk reaction, and maybe it is. But just the overall body of work for LeBron at this point is making me reconsider his position. He has just never been the guy to consistently take over when needed. He can do it in flashes but not at the level Bird displayed.

knee-jerk? Oh hell nah... Bird scored 10+ pts in the 4th and finished it with an eyes closed game winner in every competitive game there was.



Bird just went from 7 to top 5 in the last 6 months

He really been playing outta his mind these last few months..

[Roundball_Rock]

NBA Championships and Seasons

NBA Championships
Larry Bird 3
LeBron James 2

NBA Seasons

Larry Bird 13
LeBron James 12

Playoffs Played

Larry Bird 12
LeBron James 9

All-Star Games

Larry Bird 12
LeBron James 11

Honors and Awards

Season MVP

Larry Bird 3
LeBron James 4

Finals MVP

Larry Bird 2
LeBron James 2

All-NBA First Team

Larry Bird 9
LeBron James 8

All-NBA Teams
(Total Selections)

Larry Bird 10
LeBron James 10

All-Defensive First Team

Larry Bird 0
LeBron James 5

All-Defensive Teams

Larry Bird 3
LeBron James 6

Scoring Leader

Larry Bird 0
LeBron James 1

Rookie of The Year

Larry Bird 1
LeBron James 1

Lebron and Bird (Regular Season, Playoffs, and Finals Stats)

Lebron James

Regular Season

27.4 ppg on 49.6 FG%, 7.2 rpg, 6.9 apg, 1.7 spg, 0.8 bpg

Playoffs

28.1 ppg on 48.2 FG%, 8.5 rpg, 6.5 apg, 1.7 spg, and 0.9 bpg.

Finals Stats

24.3 ppg, 8.8 rpg, 6.4 apg, 1.8 spg, 0.6 bpg, 3.8 tov, 46.3 FG%, 76.1 FT%, 54.6 TS%

Larry Bird

Regular Season

24.3 ppg on 49.6 FG%, 10.0 rpg, 6.3 apg, 1.7 spg, and 0.8 bpg

Playoffs

23.8 ppg on 47.2 FG%, 10.3 rpg, 6.5 apg, 1.8 spg, 0.9 bpg

Finals

23.1 ppg, 11.6 rpg, 6.0 apg, 2.0 spg, 0.8 bpg, 2.9 tov, 45.6 FG%, 87.2 FT%, 53.4 TS%

http://www.landofbasketball.com/play...bron_james.htm


Totals Stats (Regular Season)

Total Points
Larry Bird 21,791
LeBron James 24,481

Total Rebounds
Larry Bird 8,974
LeBron James 6,638

Total Assists
Larry Bird 5,695
LeBron James 6,152

Total Steals
Larry Bird 1,556
LeBron James 1,552

Total Blocks
Larry Bird 755
LeBron James 710

Total Games
Larry Bird 897
LeBron James 891

Totals Stats (Playoffs)

Total Points
Larry Bird 3,897
LeBron James 4,419

Total Rebounds
Larry Bird 1,683
LeBron James 1,332

Total Assists
Larry Bird 1,062
LeBron James 1,019

Total Steals
Larry Bird 296
LeBron James 273

Total Blocks
Larry Bird 145
LeBron James 139

Total Games
Larry Bird 164
LeBron James 158

This says it all. They are close even right now. By the time LeBron retires it won't be a real debate--unless you go with the "eye test" or "I just think he was better" route. In terms of resume and accomplishments LeBron will blow Bird out the water career for career. Bird and Magic have the worst longevity of anyone in the top 10 all-time and it shortens their resumes.

[305Baller]

knee-jerk? Oh hell nah... Bird scored 10+ pts in the 4th and finished it with an eyes closed game winner in every competitive game there was.



Bird just went from 7 to top 5 in the last 6 months

He really been playing outta his mind these last few months..

He moved up one spot. Nice comprehension.

[ArbitraryWater]

He moved up one spot. Nice comprehension.

You just said LeBron is out of the top 5 and went ahead to list:
"
Kareem
Duncan
Bird
Jordan
Magic"

[305Baller]

This says it all. They are close even right now. By the time LeBron retires it won't be a real debate--unless you go with the "eye test" or "I just think he was better" route. In terms of resume and accomplishments LeBron will blow Bird out the water career for career. Bird and Magic have the worst longevity of anyone in the top 10 all-time and it shortens their resumes.

Bird beats him in everything but points. And thats because his teams were stacked.

[305Baller]

You just said LeBron is out of the top 5 and went ahead to list:
"
Kareem
Duncan
Bird
Jordan
Magic"

These are two types of lists... this list is obviously a position-based list. You really think Id have Jordan 4th? How can you not comprehend this?

[ArbitraryWater]

These are two types of lists... this list is obviously a position-based list. You really think Id have Jordan 4th? How can you not comprehend this?

How about this genius........ THEY'RE NOT IN ORDER?!

Ever think about that one? This mofo acting like it was obvious.. continue your knee-jerk, stick to Bird for the cute stories and "eye test". LeBron's a flat out more dominant player on both ends.

[305Baller]

How about this genius........ THEY'RE NOT IN ORDER?!

Ever think about that one? This mofo acting like it was obvious.. continue your knee-jerk, stick to Bird for the cute stories and "eye test". LeBron's a flat out more dominant player on both ends.

Okay then, my fault I should have listed the positions and made it more obvious. My fault.