Wilt Chamberlain's tomahawk move on 6'9 Bob Petit

[Fatal9]

strong defense and strong 10 inch vertical.

[Psileas]

You gotta love the various cheap shots at Wilt's vertical in a play not meant to demonstrate it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jc02Z4-0wDM
[COLOR="Lime"]Wow, nice 5 inch vertical, Hakeem.[/COLOR]

[pete's montreux]

Most underwhelming clip I've ever seen. Wade does this 3-4 times a game.

[jlauber]

You gotta love the various cheap shots at Wilt's vertical in a play not meant to demonstrate it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jc02Z4-0wDM
[COLOR="Lime"]Wow, nice 5 inch vertical, Hakeem.[/COLOR]

[IGOTGAME]

strong defense and strong 10 inch vertical.

Its a good step through move. He saw the opening and used footwork to take advantage. Defense was average. Stop hating. Post footwork is really a dying art.

[IGOTGAME]

Most underwhelming clip I've ever seen. Wade does this 3-4 times a game.

clips shows again that wilt is a fundamentally sound big man with outstanding athleticism and a good feel for when and how to execute. It was a fluid read and react from an otherworldly athlete.

its only underwhelming if you don't appreciate what it demonstrates...that being that wilt would be dominating in the NBA if placed there today.

[bwink23]

The vid only proves that Wilt was a finesse player. Good vid BTW.

Considering the times he was playing in....dunking with power and force would not have been a good thing for him in the 1960's....what kind of image would that create, a black man bullying white guys?? If he played today, u better believe he'd be looking to take someone's head off.

[Asukal]

You gotta love the various cheap shots at Wilt's vertical in a play not meant to demonstrate it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jc02Z4-0wDM
[COLOR="Lime"]Wow, nice 5 inch vertical, Hakeem.[/COLOR]

Cheap shot? A dunk would've been a much higher percentage shot than the lay up Wilt did. If he had a 50" vertical as he claimed, dunking from that spot during that play would have been extremely easy for him.

Wilt is a GOAT candidate and I'm not disputing that because he was really dominant in his era but you guys make me sick with all these bs about things he could do.

[jlauber]

Cheap shot? A dunk would've been a much higher percentage shot than the lay up Wilt did. If he had a 50" vertical as he claimed, dunking from that spot during that play would have been extremely easy for him.

Wilt is a GOAT candidate and I'm not disputing that because he was really dominant in his era but you guys make me sick with all these bs about things he could do.

Here is what we do KNOW. Wilt was over 7-1 (and most in his era claimed he was at least 7-2.) He also had a MEASURED wingspan of 7'-8". We also KNOW that SI ran article in 1964 that claimed that Wilt was benching 425 lbs...and that was when he was in his mid-20's. By the late 60's he was regarded as not only the strongest player in the NBA, but he was even mentioned as among the strongest ATHLETES in the world.

We also KNOW that he set a 110 hurdle record in high school. And we KNOW that he participated, PART TIME, on KU's track team. And by particpated, I mean in the 4x100 (yes, he had SPRINTER's speed...and more on that in a few), the 440, the 880, the shotput, the long jump, the triple jump, and, he won a HIGH JUMP championship.

Speed? There were those that claimed he was the fastest man in the NBA, and for years at that. But, here is what we do KNOW. He was invited to a Kansas City Chief tryout in the mid-60's by none other than Hank Stram. Stram tested Wilt's speed, so he had him race the Chief's fastest running back, Curtis McClinton. Chamberlain wiped him out. And by the time the tryout concluded, Stram offered Wilt a LEGITIMATE contract to play for the Chiefs.

Leaping ability? Well, we already KNOW that Wilt was a HIGH-JUMP champion (and it came the night after a basketball game in which the opposing team brutalized Wilt...as nearly every team did), and in a week in which he had liitle time to practice.

Now, we also KNOW that Wilt's coach set up a 12 ft. rim, at the time Wilt was there. And, we KNOW that the NCAA and NBA outlawed the dunking of FTs, BECAUSE it was believed that Wilt was doing just that. Now, whether he did dunk on a 12 ft rim, or dunked his FTs, we really don't know. There ARE articles which claim he did.

We also have an eye-witness account, by a respected sports writer who claimed that he measured Wilt's vertical at 42"...which would then explain the other eye-witness account, by a respected Philadephia sports figure, of Chamberlain touching the top of the backboard. And BTW, there were other NBA players at the time that stated that BOTH Russell and Wilt could accomplish that feat.

The internet is also PLASTERED with Wilt's reported bench press...and most all of them place it at 500+. We also have a TON of eye-witness accounts of extraordinary physical feats. We also have an eye-witness account of Wilt, at age 59, benching 465 lbs. And we have an interview mentioned in Cherry's book on Wilt, with a well-known weight-lifter, who was known to have benched over 500 lbs, claiming that Wilt was the strongest man he ever met.

Finally, we also KNOW these facts:

Wilt scored 100 points in game. He had a season in which he averaged 50 ppg. In fact, he averaged 40 ppg over the course of his first seven years...COMBINED. He also had SIX games of 70+ points; 32 of 60+; 118 of 50+; and 271 of 40+. He had a 55 rebound game (and it came in a game in which he outrebounded Russell, 55-19.) He also had a 41 rebound playoff game (again, against Russell.) He had SEASONS of 27 and 27.2 rpg. He had post-seasons of 29 and 30 rpg. He had SEASONS of .683 and .727 FG%'s. He had the three highest "perfect games" in NBA history (15-15, 16-16, and 18-18.) He made 35 straight FGAs. He had a SEASON in which he LED the NBA in assists. He had TWO entire playoff series in which he averaged a TRIPLE DOUBLE. He had 78 KNOWN triple-doubles. He had the ONLY 20-20-20 triple double in NBA history (22 points, 25 rebounds, and 21 assists.) He had a playoff game of 19 assists. He had a KNOWN QUAD DOUBLE of 24-32-13-12, and that came against Russell. Other than Wilt, there have been 28 30-30 games in NBA history...Wilt had 103 by himself. There have been 61 40-30 games in NBA history,..and Wilt had 55 of them by himself. There have been 30 50-30 games in NBA history, and Wilt has 27 of them (as well as two more in the playoffs.) Wilt has all EIGHT of the 40-40 games in NBA history (and one of them was a 44-43 game against Russell.) And, Wilt has all FIVE of the 50-40 games in NBA history. And, he was so close MANY times of moving up into the next category (for instance, a 62-37 game, or a 45-39 game etc.) Wilt also was credited with having SEASONS of 10+ bpg by noted stats maven Harvey Pollack. Pollack also had Wilt with 25 blocks in one game. And there was a nationally televised game in 1968 in which Wilt RECORDED 23 blocks.

Wilt LED the NBA in scoring SEVEN times. He LED the NBA in FG%, NINE times. He LED the NBA in rebounding, ELEVEN times. He even LED the NBA in assists one season. He also LED the NBA in scoring AND rebounding, at the SAME time, FIVE times. He LED the NBA in scoring AND FG%, at the same time, FOUR times. He LED the NBA in rebounding and FG%, at the same time, EIGHT times. He even LED the NBA in scoring, rebounding, and FG%, at the SAME time, THREE times (as well as leading the NBA in rebounding, FG%, AND assists, at the SAME once.)

He STILL holds some 130+ NBA records, too.

[Psileas]

Cheap shot? A dunk would've been a much higher percentage shot than the lay up Wilt did. If he had a 50" vertical as he claimed, dunking from that spot during that play would have been extremely easy for him.

So this must also mean that every finger-roll or lay-up Wilt performed must have been due to him not being athletic enough to dunk. OK, then, go to the Hakeem video I posted. Why didn't Hakeem dunk it instead of laying it up? Was he not athletic enough or were Hakeem's layups somehow more efficient than his dunks?
Plus, I didn't know that 50 inches are the threshold between a very athletic big man and a not that much.

Again, people try to hate based on trivia. If some video of Wilt f***ing 4 girls in a row appeared, we'd have people saying "nice video, but where are the other 19,996?".

Wilt is a GOAT candidate and I'm not disputing that because he was really dominant in his era but you guys make me sick with all these bs about things he could do.

This isn't about what Wilt could do. This is just basic logic. Wilt lost his personal opponent, then went for an easy lay-up. No need to push it further in order to dunk.

[Fatal9]

Here is what we do KNOW. Wilt was over 7-1 (and most in his era claimed he was at least 7-2.) He also had a MEASURED wingspan of 7'-8". We also KNOW that SI ran article in 1964 that claimed that Wilt was benching 425 lbs...and that was when he was in his mid-20's. By the late 60's he was regarded as not only the strongest player in the NBA, but he was even mentioned as among the strongest ATHLETES in the world.

We also KNOW that he set a 110 hurdle record in high school. And we KNOW that he participated, PART TIME, on KU's track team. And by particpated, I mean in the 4x100 (yes, he had SPRINTER's speed...and more on that in a few), the 440, the 880, the shotput, the long jump, the triple jump, and, he won a HIGH JUMP championship.

Speed? There were those that claimed he was the fastest man in the NBA, and for years at that. But, here is what we do KNOW. He was invited to a Kansas City Chief tryout in the mid-60's by none other than Hank Stram. Stram tested Wilt's speed, so he had him race the Chief's fastest running back, Curtis McClinton. Chamberlain wiped him out. And by the time the tryout concluded, Stram offered Wilt a LEGITIMATE contract to play for the Chiefs.

Leaping ability? Well, we already KNOW that Wilt was a HIGH-JUMP champion (and it came the night after a basketball game in which the opposing team brutalized Wilt...as nearly every team did), and in a week in which he had liitle time to practice.

Now, we also KNOW that Wilt's coach set up a 12 ft. rim, at the time Wilt was there. And, we KNOW that the NCAA and NBA outlawed the dunking of FTs, BECAUSE it was believed that Wilt was doing just that. Now, whether he did dunk on a 12 ft rim, or dunked his FTs, we really don't know. There ARE articles which claim he did.

We also have an eye-witness account, by a respected sports writer who claimed that he measured Wilt's vertical at 42"...which would then explain the other eye-witness account, by a respected Philadephia sports figure, of Chamberlain touching the top of the backboard. And BTW, there were other NBA players at the time that stated that BOTH Russell and Wilt could accomplish that feat.

The internet is also PLASTERED with Wilt's reported bench press...and most all of them place it at 500+. We also have a TON of eye-witness accounts of extraordinary physical feats. We also have an eye-witness account of Wilt, at age 59, benching 465 lbs. And we have an interview mentioned in Cherry's book on Wilt, with a well-known weight-lifter, who was known to have benched over 500 lbs, claiming that Wilt was the strongest man he ever met.

Finally, we also KNOW these facts:

Wilt scored 100 points in game. He had a season in which he averaged 50 ppg. In fact, he averaged 40 ppg over the course of his first seven years...COMBINED. He also had SIX games of 70+ points; 32 of 60+; 118 of 50+; and 271 of 40+. He had a 55 rebound game (and it came in a game in which he outrebounded Russell, 55-19.) He also had a 41 rebound playoff game (again, against Russell.) He had SEASONS of 27 and 27.2 rpg. He had post-seasons of 29 and 30 rpg. He had SEASONS of .683 and .727 FG%'s. He had the three highest "perfect games" in NBA history (15-15, 16-16, and 18-18.) He made 35 straight FGAs. He had a SEASON in which he LED the NBA in assists. He had TWO entire playoff series in which he averaged a TRIPLE DOUBLE. He had 78 KNOWN triple-doubles. He had the ONLY 20-20-20 triple double in NBA history (22 points, 25 rebounds, and 21 assists.) He had a playoff game of 19 assists. He had a KNOWN QUAD DOUBLE of 24-32-13-12, and that came against Russell. Other than Wilt, there have been 28 30-30 games in NBA history...Wilt had 103 by himself. There have been 61 40-30 games in NBA history,..and Wilt had 55 of them by himself. There have been 30 50-30 games in NBA history, and Wilt has 27 of them (as well as two more in the playoffs.) Wilt has all EIGHT of the 40-40 games in NBA history (and one of them was a 44-43 game against Russell.) And, Wilt has all FIVE of the 50-40 games in NBA history. And, he was so close MANY times of moving up into the next category (for instance, a 62-37 game, or a 45-39 game etc.) Wilt also was credited with having SEASONS of 10+ bpg by noted stats maven Harvey Pollack. Pollack also had Wilt with 25 blocks in one game. And there was a nationally televised game in 1968 in which Wilt RECORDED 23 blocks.

Wilt LED the NBA in scoring SEVEN times. He LED the NBA in FG%, NINE times. He LED the NBA in rebounding, ELEVEN times. He even LED the NBA in assists one season. He also LED the NBA in scoring AND rebounding, at the SAME time, FIVE times. He LED the NBA in scoring AND FG%, at the same time, FOUR times. He LED the NBA in rebounding and FG%, at the same time, EIGHT times. He even LED the NBA in scoring, rebounding, and FG%, at the SAME time, THREE times (as well as leading the NBA in rebounding, FG%, AND assists, at the SAME once.)

He STILL holds some 130+ NBA records, too.

I refuse to believe you actually exist.

[senelcoolidge]

Dunk or lay-up it's two points. Wilt was a finesse player, but the strongest player on the court at the same time. There are many players that could/can dunk but they don't all the time. What's the big deal..if someone goes for a lay up rather than dunking. Doesn't prove anything. Obviously Wilt would dominate the crummy centers of today's NBA. Wilt being stronger, more skilled, more athletic, and bigger than any of them.

[millwad]

We all know that Wilt used to dunk his FT's when he was younger and he had an amazing 50 inch vert! We haven't seen it but Jlauber proved this when he posted an article written by some guy..

He was also an amazing outside shooter something Jlauber has proved time after time and which can also be seen in this video where Wilt shoot FT's:

Just look at his amazing technique and he was actually so good and humble as a player and FT-shooter that he he'd shoot his FT's 1 meter behind the FT-line just so no one would be jealous of him.

STOP THE HATE!

[RRR3]

We all know that Wilt used to dunk his FT's when he was younger and he had an amazing 50 inch vert! We haven't seen it but Jlauber proved this when he posted an article written by some guy..

He was also an amazing outside shooter something Jlauber has proved time after time and which can also be seen in this video where Wilt shoot FT's:

Just look at his amazing technique and he was actually so good and humble as a player and FT-shooter that he he'd shoot his FT's 1 meter behind the FT-line just so no one would be jealous of him.

STOP THE HATE!

[millwad]

You gotta love the various cheap shots at Wilt's vertical in a play not meant to demonstrate it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jc02Z4-0wDM
[COLOR="Lime"]Wow, nice 5 inch vertical, Hakeem.[/COLOR]

This move proves how much greater moves Hakeem had than Wilt. The random move against a shorter PF is no where close the move you just posted a la Hakeem's dreamshake. The little fake Wilt did in that video was what Hakeem used to do in his sleep...