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Old 09-29-2011, 01:35 AM   #226
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The key word is when they first transformmed into SSJ.

If so, then SSJ Kid Trunks and SSJ Son-Goten (when they first transforms) >=/ SSJ Future Trunks (when he first transforms)

When Future Trunks in the Manga, first transforms, he is technically the weakest. He wasn't more powerful than Namek Son-Goku. He wasn't more powerful than SSJ Future Son-Gohan.

And then you have to factor in the training. Kid Trunks gets training from Vegeta. They were already training under the heavy gravity machine. Son-Goten gets training from Son Gohan, who at that time is clearly the most powerful fighter in the world. Future Trunks ? Everyone he knows is dead. How much more is he going to improve as a fighter ? Sure, he trains and gets to become a better fighter, but he is never going to get the training from warriors that are stronger than the andriods, like Kid Trunks and Son-Goten do.

Advantage: Kid Trunks and Son-Goten.

After the end of the cell-saga, then sure, you can say USSJ Future Trunks > SSJ Trunks and SSJ Son-Goten.

When Future Trunks comes to the present first ? Then that's even hard to say. I would still lean towards Kid Trunks and Son-Goten, because they have been under the training of superior warriors.

Depends how your going to look at it, though.

You do know that Future Trunks was a pupil of Future Gohan right?
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Old 09-29-2011, 02:16 AM   #227
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Teen Goku is a f*cking champ yo! Last episode of the Finals!
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Old 09-29-2011, 02:23 AM   #228
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You do know that Future Trunks was a pupil of Future Gohan right?

And ?

Future Son-Gohan wasn't more powerful or a more skilled fighter than Present Gohan and Vegeta after the Cell games was he ?

Future Son-Gohan is dead after Future Trunks transforms. Then what ? He's not going to become a more skilled or polished fighter. His full potential will not be released will it ? Sure, Future Trunks got better when he was growing up, but he still didn't get all the proper training from Future Son-Gohan.

Kid Turnks and Son-Goten would be getting training from an USSJ and a far skillled fighter in Vegeta and the most powerful fighter on the planet in SSJ2 Present Gohan.

They would clearly be better fighters. Sure, USSJ Future Trunks > SSJ Kid Trunks and SSJ Goten, but that's after the Cell Saga.

Also, if push comes to shove and depending if they have learned the fusion dance technique, Kid Trunks and Goten become Gotenks and >> USSJ Future Trunks
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Old 09-29-2011, 03:27 AM   #229
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And ?

Future Son-Gohan wasn't more powerful or a more skilled fighter than Present Gohan and Vegeta after the Cell games was he ?

Future Son-Gohan is dead after Future Trunks transforms. Then what ? He's not going to become a more skilled or polished fighter. His full potential will not be released will it ? Sure, Future Trunks got better when he was growing up, but he still didn't get all the proper training from Future Son-Gohan.

Kid Turnks and Son-Goten would be getting training from an USSJ and a far skillled fighter in Vegeta and the most powerful fighter on the planet in SSJ2 Present Gohan.

They would clearly be better fighters. Sure, USSJ Future Trunks > SSJ Kid Trunks and SSJ Goten, but that's after the Cell Saga.

Also, if push comes to shove and depending if they have learned the fusion dance technique, Kid Trunks and Goten become Gotenks and >> USSJ Future Trunks

You say its like Future Trunks trained himself. You mentioned the fact that Kid Trunks was trained by Vegeta and Kid Goten was trained by Adult Gohan, but you neglected to mention the fact that Future Gohan trained Future Trunks.
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Old 09-29-2011, 03:28 AM   #230
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It should have ended at that point. That Budokai is probably the best of the whole DB series.

If you mean the best WMAT match then yes. But its not the best fight by a long shot. Maybe Top 5... Definitely Top 10.
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You say its like Future Trunks trained himself. You mentioned the fact that Kid Trunks was trained by Vegeta and Kid Goten was trained by Adult Gohan, but you neglected to mention the fact that Future Gohan trained Future Trunks.

Oh sorry if i meant it like that, but in reality the training that Kid Trunks and Goten are getting is >> what Future Trunks is getting (or was getting before Future Son-Gohan dies).

So in that sense, Future Trunks has to train himself after he dies, until he time travels and meets the present day fighters, goes in the hyperbolic time chamber, etc...
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Its filler time!
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Old 09-29-2011, 11:21 PM   #233
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Just so everybody knows, I'm ordering Dragon Ball Z Season 1 and 2 on Sunday
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Watching the last DB episode. DBZ up next!!!!!
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ROCK THE DRAGON

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Old 09-30-2011, 01:44 AM   #236
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Cha-La Head Cha-La >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all other DB OPs

Especially when Konata sings.

Now that I can agree with you on. However, I wish I knew what the lyrics were saying. However, "dragon dragon, rock the dragon, dragon ball Z, a come a come get me" isn't that lyrically profound in the first place anyway
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Watching the last DB episode. DBZ up next!!!!!

now its time to make a Dragon ball Z discussion thread.
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now its time to make a Dragon ball Z discussion thread.

Dragon Ball Z is part of the Dragon Ball franchise, so that would be stupid. Besides we've all been talking about DBZ more in this thread than DB already anyway. Keep this thread going.
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Goku and Piccolo vs. Raditz is really going to start picking up this next episode. I'm done for the night though. Episode 4 next!
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Old 09-30-2011, 02:48 AM   #240
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That intro is the best. Unlike the DBZ Kai one.

Oh my gosh, Rock The Dragon fits perfect with Kai, don't you think so?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVpMNi1xcjs

I love that vid.
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