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Old 05-12-2014, 01:58 PM   #46
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when our youth has been saved.

perhaps we could start having an intellectual conversation about making abortion illegal.

perhaps.
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Old 05-12-2014, 02:14 PM   #47
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How many of you heroes give a shit when broke welfare poverty stricken mothers have these babies and can't care for them?



Not on your dollar through right?
How about take some personal responsibility and don't breed if you can't afford it? This isn't about broke people anyway, where abortion is understandable (though still very selfish) it's about how aborting your baby has become a lifestyle choice, for rich and poor alike. Women like this 'counselor' are happy to promote abortion as if they were simply picking a career path, or a personal hobby, as if no moral considerations are present whatsoever. She is disgusting and inhuman, but at least i can take solace in the fact that plenty of people similar to her will have been aborted already.

She says 'i'm showing there can be such a thing as a positive abortion story!' - sorry, but there is no such thing, and you'd actually have to be completely sociopathic (or ignorant and brainwashed) to think otherwise.

edit: the video doesn't even show her bottom half and so actually ignores the procedure. So she has a 'reality of abortion' video without even showing the process. I guess if they showed her with a thin tube shoved up her fanny that sucks the fetus out, compressing it into liquid mush in the process, some people might come away with the wrong idea and end up thinking abortion actually isn't a joyous pastime.

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Old 05-12-2014, 02:26 PM   #48
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Very noble of you since there is no chance you could get pregnant.
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Old 05-12-2014, 02:37 PM   #49
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Very noble of you since there is no chance you could get pregnant.


This isn't an argument, only a facile and irrelevant observation. There is almost no chance of getting pregnant if you are a female and a remotely responsible human being; if you expose yourself to the risk then why shouldn't you have to deal with the consequences of that bad decision? Why should the consequences be shifted vicariously onto an entity that has no voice and no means of defending itself?

How about: 'very noble of you considering you've already been born.'

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Old 05-12-2014, 03:10 PM   #50
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This isn't an argument, only a facile and irrelevant observation. There is almost no chance of getting pregnant if you are a female and a remotely responsible human being; if you expose yourself to the risk then why shouldn't you have to deal with the consequences of that bad decision? Why should the consequences be shifted vicariously onto an entity that has no voice and no means of defending itself?

How about: 'very noble of you considering you've already been born.'

I wouldn't be bickering about it online though.
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Old 05-12-2014, 03:55 PM   #51
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How about take some personal responsibility and don't breed if you can't afford it? This isn't about broke people anyway, where abortion is understandable (though still very selfish) it's about how aborting your baby has become a lifestyle choice, for rich and poor alike. Women like this 'counselor' are happy to promote abortion as if they were simply picking a career path, or a personal hobby, as if no moral considerations are present whatsoever. She is disgusting and inhuman, but at least i can take solace in the fact that plenty of people similar to her will have been aborted already.

She says 'i'm showing there can be such a thing as a positive abortion story!' - sorry, but there is no such thing, and you'd actually have to be completely sociopathic (or ignorant and brainwashed) to think otherwise.

edit: the video doesn't even show her bottom half and so actually ignores the procedure. So she has a 'reality of abortion' video without even showing the process. I guess if they showed her with a thin tube shoved up her fanny that sucks the fetus out, compressing it into liquid mush in the process, some people might come away with the wrong idea and end up thinking abortion actually isn't a joyous pastime.

When it is a fetus:
OMG we have to protect this wondrous creation of God.

After it is born:
Fucking leech, get a job you bum
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Old 05-12-2014, 04:26 PM   #52
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When it is a fetus:
OMG we have to protect this wondrous creation of God.

After it is born:
Fucking leech, get a job you bum
Before it is conceived: Use a condom.
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Old 05-12-2014, 04:34 PM   #53
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For once I actually agree with Dresta. If you havent been raped, or the baby is not endangering either the mother or its own life, then you have NO reason to consider abortion.

You dont want a baby? You ever heard of a thing called adoption? Why not give this poor thing a chance at life? Instead a living thing is sucked out looking like its been through a blender just because some hoe that couldnt afford a condom "isnt ready for a baby".

Also, how much of a retard is this bitch that she is a adoption counselor yet manages to get pregnant herself?
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Old 05-12-2014, 08:25 PM   #54
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For once I actually agree with Dresta. If you havent been raped, or the baby is not endangering either the mother or its own life, then you have NO reason to consider abortion.

You dont want a baby? You ever heard of a thing called adoption? Why not give this poor thing a chance at life? Instead a living thing is sucked out looking like its been through a blender just because some hoe that couldnt afford a condom "isnt ready for a baby".

Also, how much of a retard is this bitch that she is a adoption counselor yet manages to get pregnant herself?
She is almost the exact opposite. abortion counselor
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Old 05-12-2014, 08:28 PM   #55
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For once I actually agree with Dresta. If you havent been raped, or the baby is not endangering either the mother or its own life, then you have NO reason to consider abortion.

You dont want a baby? You ever heard of a thing called adoption? Why not give this poor thing a chance at life? Instead a living thing is sucked out looking like its been through a blender just because some hoe that couldnt afford a condom "isnt ready for a baby".

Also, how much of a retard is this bitch that she is a adoption counselor yet manages to get pregnant herself?
There are plenty of kids already waiting to be adopted. There is no need to bring another unwanted child into this world, and the mother shouldn't have to go through child birth if she doesn't want to.

It would be preferable for women who don't want kids to not get pregnant, but we're not living in a perfect world where people don't make mistakes. I don't care that the fetus is a living thing. Why should anyone care about that? It can't feel pain. It has no memories or experiences. What's the big loss? The poor thing deserved a chance at life? Why? What makes the fetus any more deserving of life than the other hundreds of thousands of potential lives in a woman's ovaries?

If someone keeps getting pregnant and has abortion after abortion, I can't respect that person and they are clearly a huge moron, but if a woman makes one big mistake and ends up getting an abortion because they don't think they are ready, I respect that decision.
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Old 05-13-2014, 09:22 AM   #56
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When it is a fetus:
OMG we have to protect this wondrous creation of God.

After it is born:
Fucking leech, get a job you bum
Seriously, what the hell is the matter with you man?

I've never said nor do i believe either of those. I have a low opinion of mankind in general, i don't believe in God, and i think the state has a role to play in the lives of disenfranchised children. Adults, on the other hand, are required to take a bit more responsibility for themselves, because otherwise they will never act like adults and will always remain child-like, irresponsible and parasitical (like children, you see).

But you keep spewing out your mocking liberal platitudes and caricatures as you deny reality and worship a religion of your very own in the process. Honestly, your thought process is like that of a cult member: so incredibly rigid, indoctrinated and depressing it is.

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There are plenty of kids already waiting to be adopted. There is no need to bring another unwanted child into this world, and the mother shouldn't have to go through child birth if she doesn't want to.

It would be preferable for women who don't want kids to not get pregnant, but we're not living in a perfect world where people don't make mistakes. I don't care that the fetus is a living thing. Why should anyone care about that? It can't feel pain. It has no memories or experiences. What's the big loss? The poor thing deserved a chance at life? Why? What makes the fetus any more deserving of life than the other hundreds of thousands of potential lives in a woman's ovaries?

If someone keeps getting pregnant and has abortion after abortion, I can't respect that person and they are clearly a huge moron, but if a woman makes one big mistake and ends up getting an abortion because they don't think they are ready, I respect that decision.
So every child that is unwanted should be aborted? You know you would not exist if this practice had been followed over the last few centuries?

Your middle paragraph shows your ignorance. What makes the fetus more deserving of life than a sperm or ovum? Well, only that the fetus already has life, and is a unique organism in its own right, something that cannot be said for reproductive cells. The logic used by most is 'well, if it can't survive on its own, then abortion is ok' - but these lines of arbitration are simply imaginary, with the age a fetus being capable of surviving outside of the womb decreasing as technology improves, and all infants being parasitical by nature. Indeed, very young infants have no memories or experiences - so is it ok to eliminate them too? Provided it is done painlessly, of course?
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Old 05-13-2014, 10:03 AM   #57
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So every child that is unwanted should be aborted? You know you would not exist if this practice had been followed over the last few centuries?
So what if I never came to exist? What does that matter? If I never came to exist, it wouldn't bother me at all. I wouldn't be able to be bothered by it, not existing and all.

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Your middle paragraph shows your ignorance. What makes the fetus more deserving of life than a sperm or ovum? Well, only that the fetus already has life, and is a unique organism in its own right, something that cannot be said for reproductive cells. The logic used by most is 'well, if it can't survive on its own, then abortion is ok' - but these lines of arbitration are simply imaginary, with the age a fetus being capable of surviving outside of the womb decreasing as technology improves, and all infants being parasitical by nature. Indeed, very young infants have no memories or experiences - so is it ok to eliminate them too? Provided it is done painlessly, of course?
We each have a right to life under the law, so no, I don't think it's ok to kill babies. The fetus is in the woman's body. Her body, her choice if she wants to kill the thing. I'm surprised to learn you're an atheist. You think a fetus deserves to be born simply because it's alive and unique in it's own right? That sounds like something a Christian would say. "God breathed life into it and implanted the soul". You don't believe in god and souls don't exist, so why exactly does it matter that the fetus is living?
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Old 05-13-2014, 10:06 AM   #58
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So what if I never came to exist? What does that matter? If I never came to exist, it wouldn't bother me at all. I wouldn't be able to be bothered by it, not existing and all.


We each have a right to life under the law, so no, I don't think it's ok to kill babies. The fetus is in the woman's body. Her body, her choice if she wants to kill the thing. I'm surprised to learn you're an atheist. You think a fetus deserves to be born simply because it's alive and unique in it's own right? That sounds like something a Christian would say. "God breathed life into it and implanted the soul". You don't believe in god and souls don't exist, so why exactly does it matter that the fetus is living?


Dude, you are ****ing retarded.
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Old 05-13-2014, 11:32 AM   #59
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how do you know 16x wouldn't have existed if more women used abortion? his parents could have planned to have him. i'm 90% sure my parents planned to have me.
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Old 05-13-2014, 11:59 AM   #60
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Dude, you are ****ing retarded.
He's not, but we all can see someone in this thread who is.
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