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Old 05-03-2019, 10:27 AM   #16
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Default Re: NBA.com: 89% of 3PA are "open" (4-6 feet from defender) or "wide open" (6+ feet)

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Old 05-03-2019, 10:35 AM   #17
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Nice response FKari, one that I could also agree on! The NBA wanted less Kurt Rambis'es, Charles Oakley's, Maurice Lucas'es and Rick Mahorn's and thus altered the game to favor the less fundamentally sound ATHLETES that started appearing in the early 90's.

Honest question to you, do you really enjoy this modern brand of basketball?
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Old 05-03-2019, 10:50 AM   #18
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Old 05-03-2019, 10:51 AM   #19
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Just think - 90% of Reggie Miller's threes would be open or wide open in this era!!!!!!!!!!!!!!..

Today's game has perfected the gimmicky drive-and-kick schemes that maximize 3-point looks... and apparently OPEN looks


He didn't have true long range or the ability to create and shoot off the dribble. His looks would be comparable today.
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Old 05-03-2019, 11:20 AM   #20
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He didn't have true long range or the ability to create and shoot off the dribble. His looks would be comparable today.

Reggie had to run off a bunch of screens to get threes back then.. Whereas today's drive-and-kick schemes allow players to stand and wait for kickouts

Offenses back then didn't run plays that were optimal for getting open 3-point looks, whereas today's format has been honed over many years and perfected to maximize threes - Reggie would have MUCH easier looks today

Also, most of today's threes are catch-and-shoot and 90% are open or wide open - Reggie's 3-point output would be like Redick's but with better 2-point scoring too
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Old 05-03-2019, 11:28 AM   #21
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Reggie had to run off a bunch of screens to get threes back then.. Whereas today's drive-and-kick schemes allow players to stand and wait for kickouts

Offenses back then didn't run plays that were optimal for getting open 3-point looks, whereas today's format has been honed over many years and perfected to maximize threes - Reggie would have MUCH easier looks today

Also, most of today's threes are catch-and-shoot and 90% are open or wide open - Reggie's 3-point output would be like Redick's but with better 2-point scoring too


Stars still run off screens. Actually... All players do on good non harden esque offenses. Look at jj reddick last night. (wait you don't watch so you don't know)

Go watch the play off film from this year of curry, kyrie, dame, cj, and more. They run offball route trees through screens. But unlike miller can dribble and create giving the defense an extra layer to worry about, and themselves more options for fakes to get open.

Plus defenders from reggies era didn't venture far out. Its hilarious how they're all huddled in the paint and below the ft line extended...ding0 would salivate.
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Old 05-03-2019, 11:38 AM   #22
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Stars still run off screens. Actually... All players do on good non harden esque offenses. Look at jj reddick last night. (wait you don't watch so you don't know)

Guys run off screens today but they wait for kickouts too, a ton more than Reggie did because he didn't have today's high-screen roll kickout schemes

today's format has been honed over many years and perfected to maximize threes - Reggie would have MUCH easier looks today


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Plus defenders from reggies era didn't venture far out. Its hilarious how they're all huddled in the paint and below the ft line extended...ding0 would salivate

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Are you serious?

They stayed in the paint because no one was behind the line and teams attempted very few threes

The exceptions were obviously guys like Reggie and a few other guys like Majerle or Dale Ellis - the scouting report was to stick to these guys like white on rice and that's what happened - Reggie had to work like hell to get open

Regardless, 90% of today's threes are taken with 4+ feet of room - it's pretty impossible to get better looks than that.. .. today's game is infact, a joke.. not really basketball
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Old 05-03-2019, 07:10 PM   #23
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No one plays defense in the NBA. The only time NBA and "defense" are even said in the same sentence is when NBA marketing gimmicks are being used, and/or when NBA only fans are talking.
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Old 05-04-2019, 04:42 AM   #24
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All this talk about everyone being better today and yet the highest and 3rd highest 3p% of the 3 ball era (excluding shortened line) were in 09 and 08, respectively.

This season ranks 11th (again, excluding shortened line) out of 37, keep in mind that most 3s are wide open and guys are practicing this shot more than ever

Imagine if guys in the 80s and 90s, even early 00s, took as many 3s as today's players
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Old 05-04-2019, 04:56 AM   #25
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This then turns into the combo guard argument, having players that can shoot the 3 while the shot clock winds down is important, but what about someone that starts the offense that can shoot the 3.

It translates into small ball, and regardless of rule changes, these numbers are still anchored by FTs. It's a two way sport after all.
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