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LeBron is the most valuable playoff player of all time
[QUOTE]James has also moved past Jordan in postseason value over replacement,*a*box score estimate of the points per 100 possessions that a player contributed above a replacement-level player. In other words, James, despite not winning as many championships as Jordan, is the most valuable playoff player of all time. It
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: LeBron is the most valuable playoff player of all time
Well we know that D Wade is better than Pippen hands down
So therefore, Jordan was able to enhance his teammate's production past their normal level while otoh LeBron decreased his teammate's production from their normal level
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Re: LeBron is the most valuable playoff player of all time
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Embiid > Jokic
Re: LeBron is the most valuable playoff player of all time
Originally Posted by warriorfan
Well we know that D Wade is better than Pippen hands down
So therefore, Jordan was able to enhance his teammate's production past their normal level while otoh LeBron decreased his teammate's production from their normal level
LeBron's played the majority of his postseason runs without Wade, and just won a title without him
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Re: LeBron is the most valuable playoff player of all time
If youre a dumbass, then yes
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: LeBron is the most valuable playoff player of all time
Originally Posted by SouBeachTalents
LeBron's played the majority of his postseason runs without Wade, and just won a title without him
Regardless
That still does not change the fact that LeBron lowers his teammates production below their normal levels
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: LeBron is the most valuable playoff player of all time
Originally Posted by warriorfan
Regardless
That still does not change the fact that LeBron lowers his teammates production below their normal levels
The stat referenced in OP's article (vorp) shows that Jordan made Pippen > Shaq and Bird, while Lebron made Wade worse than Pippen, Kobe, Dr. J, Horry
http://www.basketball-reference.com/..._career_p.html
Also, VORP shows that Lebron made Bosh < George Hill, while MJ made Horace Grant > Garnett and DR.. Lebron achieved his stats at the expense of teammates, which I've been saying for years.
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Last edited by 3ball; 07-20-2016 at 08:48 PM.
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Embiid > Jokic
Re: LeBron is the most valuable playoff player of all time
Originally Posted by 3ball
The stat referenced in OP's article (vorp) shows that Jordan made Pippen > Shaq and Bird, while Lebron made Wade worse than Pippen, Kobe, Dr. J, Horry
http://www.basketball-reference.com/..._career_p.html
Also, VORP shows that Lebron made Bosh < George Hill, while MJ made Horace Grant > Garnett and DR.. Lebron achieved his stats at the expense of teammates, which I've been saying for years.
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Damn, Jordan's second option was better than Shaq and his third option better than KG?! Fuccing stacked
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NBA Legend
Re: LeBron is the most valuable playoff player of all time
Originally Posted by 3ball
The stat referenced in OP's article (vorp) shows that Jordan made Pippen > Shaq and Bird, while Lebron made Wade worse than Pippen, Kobe, Dr. J, Horry
http://www.basketball-reference.com/..._career_p.html
Also, VORP shows that Lebron made Bosh < George Hill, while MJ made Horace Grant > Garnett and DR.. Lebron achieved his stats at the expense of teammates, which I've been saying for years.
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There is one ball. Of course stats will take a hit. It also shows Lebron made Kyrie MUCH better.
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Re: LeBron is the most valuable playoff player of all time
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