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Old 01-09-2009, 04:14 PM   #1
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Default Better year for hip-hop, 2003 or 2005?

There's no reasoning for the selection of these two years in hip-hop music. Just randomly selected them and wanted to get some good discussion going. I'm not going to break out my entire music collection / downloads and list every single noteworthy album / track for each year, but I'll throw some ish out there for each year to get us started.

2003

Debut (commercial ie: 50 Cent & TI) albums & artists from: 50 Cent - Get Rich or Die Tryin', T.I. - Trap Muzik, Freeway, Joe Budden, Bone Crusher, Chingy, Killer Mike, David Banner, Lyrics Born, Nick Cannon, etc. I'm sure I'm missing a few.

A lot of bullshit was released in 2003 (see most of the debuts above), and not just commercially either; I'm talking about garbage like Prince Paul's Politics of the Business, PMD's Awakening, Kool Keith's The Lost Masters, Atmosphere's Seven's Travels (garbage, along with anything else released by Atmosphere), etc. How about Keith Murray's return huh? He's Keith Murray! Straight up enhanced garbage. Lot's of bullshit in the 03.

It wasn't all bad. Speakerboxxx / Love Below was not a classic like some would like to argue, but it was decent. The Black Album was fire even though it was a late 2003 release. Most rap fans labeled DMX's Grand Champ trash, whereas I found it his second best release behind his debut album. Grand Champ was nice IMO. Remember Canibus' Rip the Jacker? Easily his best album (thanks to Stoupe's production), and raw as fuck. Gang Starr's The Owners was good, but nothing special either. This was also the year MF released Viktor Vaugh, Immortal Technique dropped RV2 and of course Little Brother's The Listening.

You could make a case that despite all the garbage that entered the realm of rap in 2003 that still overall it was a good year, especially if you add some of the more underrated / underappreciated albums such as Jeru's Divine Design, Jedi Mind Tricks Visions of Gandhi, Killah Priest's Black August, Louis Logic's Sin-A-Matic and the unknown yet incredible album (IMO) Ugly Duckling's Taste the Secret.

2005

Debuts from the new "West Coast King" The Game, and ATL's Young Jeezy, but 2005 was a megaplex for Houston rappers, as Mike Jones, Slim Thug, Chamillionaire & Paul Wall. Sound of Revenge was hot for a minute, and I thought Paul Wall's album People's Champ was worthy of its platinum status. I'm not too crazy about Slim Thug, but I'll admit Already Platinum was a good album. Mike Jones... the Cuddy Buddy mofo... phuck off.

This was also the year of 50's sophomore album, The Massacre which was blah minus Ski Mask Way. Wu Tang dropped Think Differently, LOL. Lil Kim's album got 5 mics in The Source, LMAO. Carter II dropped, and forced me to actually consider Wizzy a talented artist. The most overrated album ever, Common's Be. Kanye's Late Registration was good. Buckshot hooked up with 9th Wonder. Wait, are we missing something, oh yeah Juelz's What the Game’s Been Missing FTL!

Danger Doom was probably the best album of 2005 IMO. An album that will stand the test of time.

I was disappointed with the album Muggs and GZA put out (Grandmasters). A Healthy Distrust from Sage Francis was surprisingly good. Sadat X's Experience & Education is the best rap album of 2005 that no one's heard yet. Fat Joe's All or Nothing was a good album despite the criticism. Canibus put out Mind Control, back to his old self again with rubbish production values, and despite popular belief, Cage's Hell's Winter was trash too.

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I'm sure I'm missing a ton of music that was put out in 2003 and 2005, so add to what I've already listed.

Honestly, I can't decide which year was better (or worst!).

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Old 01-09-2009, 04:31 PM   #2
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Default Re: Better year for hip-hop, 2003 or 2005?

probably 2003. all i can remember from 04/05 is lil jon shouting nonsense on every song.
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Default Re: Better year for hip-hop, 2003 or 2005?

2003.

'get rich or die tryin' was fantastic. 'trap muzik' was great and launched the career of a superstar who has given us great music since. 'speakerboxxx/love below' i thought was amazing as well. freeway's debut was dope and black album was great. can't remember much from that year off the top of my head.

the only real notable releases of 2005 were 'carter II', 'late registration', and 'we got it 4 cheap vol. 2'.
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1977. Hip hop was born. Can't top that.
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2003, Get Rich Or Die Tryin'=GOAT
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Old 01-09-2009, 08:22 PM   #6
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Default Re: Better year for hip-hop, 2003 or 2005?

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Buckshot hooked up with 9th Wonder. :

I think you might be talking about Buckshot and Sean Price. And yes, that album was amazing.
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Default Re: Better year for hip-hop, 2003 or 2005?

2003, quite easily.

releases i enjoyed immensely from that year:

- 'the listening': phonte's verse in 'whatever you say' really stands out. this album remains their masterpiece.
- sean price 'monkey barz': i read somewhere that sean p dropped shrooms before recording 'onion head'... kinda makes sense when you think about it.
- cunninlynguists 'southernunderground': 'seasons' is great. hell, the whole album is dope.
- 'vaudeville villain': one of my favourite doom joints. i actually slept on it for a while, but rediscovered it recently in a big way.
- 'speakerboxxx/the love below': a lot of people thought dre sold out with this album. i have to question the logic in that statement. 'hey ya' sounded nothing like anything in the charts when that album was released.
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I think you might be talking about Buckshot and Sean Price. And yes, that album was amazing.

I'm talking about Chemistry. Are you talking about Monkey Barz?
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I'm talking about Chemistry. Are you talking about Monkey Barz?

Yeah Monkey Barz, I thought that came out back in '05, but I could be wrong though........
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Default Re: Better year for hip-hop, 2003 or 2005?

Most def 2003. I hated Mike Jones, Paul Wall, Lil Jon, Ying Yang Twins and all that. The best commercial thing in 2005 was Tha Carter II. If Lil Wayne made every song like he does with 3 Peat, Fly In and Fly Out then I would have no problem calling him the best rapper alive.
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I really don't remember when most things came out, but I do know that Trap Muzik was the truth when it came out. Did the first Carter come out in 03? That was the last Lil Wayne I was bangin, and that was my **** too.
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