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Old 06-09-2014, 12:43 AM   #31
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Well, here is what MJ had accomplished by age 29: 3 rings, 3 MVP's, 3 Finals appearances, 3 first round losses.

LeBron, if the Heat win this year, would by the same age have: 3 rings, 4 MVP's, 5 Finals appearances, 0 first round losses.

Keep in mind LeBron already has more MVP's than Magic, Bird (who had 3) and has more than Shaq, Kobe, Hakeem combined. He has only 2 less than MJ (KAJ was the record with 6, although some in the media act as if Mike has the fake MVP and fake rings records ).



Why does that logic not apply to the lack of international players until the 2000's? It is a legitimate, but hypocritical point, to note the racial talent pool was smaller in the 60's but ignoring the global talent pool was smaller in the past too. The NBA did not become a 1/5 international league until this century.
2011 NBA Finals.
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Old 06-09-2014, 12:49 AM   #32
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Because the best players are still by and large American. And there were a fair number of talented Euro players in the 90s in the NBA (shame about Drazen Petrovic, what a talent he was).





Just look at the modern day Spurs. Two of their top three players are international (France, Argentina) and arguably three if you count Duncan. The Lakers' second best player during their 2008-2010 runs was a Spainard. The 2011 champs were led by a German. International players are a major part of the 21st century game, in a way they were not in the past.

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If he wins a third ring this year, he passes a lot of people, but not Jordan.

He can obviously get there, he still has several good years left in him, if he stays healthy.

I agree. My point was he definitely is on pace to make a strong run at MJ's resume.

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2012, 2013, 2014 NBA Finals. at the notion that a year career can be defined by one series.
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Old 06-09-2014, 12:52 AM   #33
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Old 06-09-2014, 12:54 AM   #34
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Just look at the modern day Spurs. Two of their top three players are international (France, Argentina) and arguably three if you count Duncan. The Lakers' second best player during their 2008-2010 runs was a Spainard. The 2011 champs were led by a German. International players are a major part of the 21st century game, in a way they were not in the past.



I agree. My point was he definitely is on pace to make a strong run at MJ's resume.



2012, 2013, 2014 NBA Finals. at the notion that a year career can be defined by one series.

I don't think even 50% of the players in the NBA circa 1966 would even make the NBA today and that's saying something as there were only like 9 teams total.

The 60s is just too far back in the development of basketball to be compared to any era past 1980.
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Old 06-09-2014, 01:23 AM   #35
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