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Old 06-07-2014, 02:45 PM   #61
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I'm not seeing it. For every super athletic player today, someone equivalent from the 90s can be brought up.


Yes.... but the OVERALL athleticism was lower.
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Old 06-07-2014, 02:48 PM   #62
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Absolutely. Are you insane?
I'll give him being a great passer as a big man, but dude hardly shot the ball. Some baby hooks here and there but mostly dunks.

Saying he had elite skills is a stretch.
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Old 06-07-2014, 02:52 PM   #63
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I'll give him being a great passer as a big man, but dude hardly shot the ball. Some baby hooks here and there but mostly dunks.

Saying he had elite skills is a stretch.
he didnt dunk everytime, while he did bully ppl and got away with offensive fouls, he had amazing touch on his hook shots and great footwork
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Old 06-07-2014, 03:31 PM   #64
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PF could be Barkley as well. He is a lot stronger than Griffin and actually had a higher vertical jump (37.5 inches). Griffin before the draft was measured at 35.5 inches.

But perhaps the most important attribute is quick jumping off the ground, particularly under the boards.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Os2TpfjKnPE&t=14m9s
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Old 06-07-2014, 03:32 PM   #65
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Shaq had elite skills??


Have you ever seen Shaq grab a defensive rebound and take it all the way for a slam dunk, this is a 7 foot 300 lb dude we're talking about, FFS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b866h...e_gdata_playerhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYcns...e_gdata_player
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xREP...e_gdata_player

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Old 06-07-2014, 03:38 PM   #66
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PF could be Barkley as well. He is a lot stronger than Griffin and actually had a higher vertical jump (37.5 inches). Griffin before the draft was measured at 35.5 inches.

But perhaps the most important attribute is quick jumping off the ground, particularly under the boards.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Os2TpfjKnPE&t=14m9s


I wouldn't really consider Barkley a PF body wise, I mean the dude was like 6 foot 6
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Old 06-07-2014, 04:17 PM   #67
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Whole athleticism argument and cliches get overblown out of proportions

Just the other day I was realizing that overall/on average, Larry Bird faced better defenders and/or more athletic players than LeBron James, even in terms of size, especially when you factor in playoffs.
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Old 06-07-2014, 06:46 PM   #68
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I wouldn't really consider Barkley a PF body wise, I mean the dude was like 6 foot 6

Smaller Actually 64 3/4 ft. Barkley Was Like Griffin With Better Fundamentals, Rebounding, Passing, Scoring, Post Play and Stronger.
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Old 06-07-2014, 06:50 PM   #69
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Nah you haven't

He hasn't but I have.

Come at me bro.

90's>today

I wish today was better because it's what I'm watching at the present time and I don't want the present to be inferior to the past.
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Old 06-08-2014, 01:36 AM   #70
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He hasn't but I have.

Come at me bro.

90's>today

I wish today was better because it's what I'm watching at the present time and I don't want the present to be inferior to the past.
That fakkit claims I didn't watch 80s BBall, I'm in my 40s FFS.


And I started this thread to challenge the younger cats to produce a better list than the one I listed in the OP and so far they've failed hard. Round Rock or whatever the fvck's his name didn't even try and produce a list, neither NumberSix
With so many mythical elite athletes with elite skills running around today, it should be easy, no???


I win

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Old 06-08-2014, 02:20 AM   #71
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this just in

the NFL concussion policy and heads up football to prevent kids from having concussion has just been treated as a joke.


have fun doing damage control with that one.
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Old 06-08-2014, 06:56 AM   #72
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The whole athleticism thing is overrated. Elite skills/IQ will always give you a prominent place in the league, even if youre limited athletically. You got a 38 Duncan playing a key role in the NBA finals, who was never 'athletic' to begin with compared the Griffins and Stoudamires of the world, still one of the best bigs in the league 16 years later.
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Old 06-08-2014, 07:04 AM   #73
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PF could be Barkley as well. He is a lot stronger than Griffin and actually had a higher vertical jump (37.5 inches). Griffin before the draft was measured at 35.5 inches.

But perhaps the most important attribute is quick jumping off the ground, particularly under the boards.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Os2TpfjKnPE&t=14m9s

One of the best athletes ever, simply put... Especially you factor in skills combined, that way he has definitely to be #1 for PF's.
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Old 06-08-2014, 07:05 AM   #74
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Shaq had elite skills??

Why not??? At least great
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Old 06-08-2014, 07:08 AM   #75
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Yeah, this guy didn't have Rose, Wall or Westbrook athleticism:


Wouldn't really say better but definitely same level... KJ is very overlooked as an athlete, before injuries he was very explosive, quick and could really get up.
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