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Old 06-29-2008, 10:52 PM   #1
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I enjoyed reading this and its so true.

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In light of the oh-so-hilarious Shaquille O'Neal freestyle, I've decided to post about a concept I've wanted to write about for some time now. Obviously, I'm a Laker fan, and Kobe Bryant is my favourite player. However, I do see things objectively, and even more importantly, I look at events that happen in the NBA in a much deeper context than one should because, as always, there is a more to a a player and an action than what it may seem on the surface. That's not true in all cases, obviously, but it is in some. And that's all I need.

Anyways, my reaction to any player in the NBA doing something that gains media, blogger, or fan base reaction is subsequently followed by my interpretation of how these same people would react if Kobe Bryant were to do the same thing. This is why Kobe Bryant is hands down the most popular player in the league, for good and bad reasons. You mention his name ANYWHERE, and you will get pretty much double the amount of readers or ratings that you would normally get if you mentioned say...Tracy Mcgrady. It also explains why he remains perhaps the one player who gets criticized or blamed for things that aren't really his fault (i.e- People criticizing him for resembling MJ in voice), and just fathoming the reaction that would have followed if Kobe were to have been involved also serves as a funny reminder of just how important ratings and attention really are in the grand scheme of things. It shows the power of the media, and most of all, it shows us the influence (whether positive or negative) that Kobe Bryant has had on this league. I stand by my proclaimation that there has never been an athelete who has been hated on this much, no matter WHAT he does, whether good or bad.

Without further ado, I give to you the situations where you truly have to wonder how the reaction would have been if Kobe Bryant were to have done the same thing.

1. "A Kobe Bryant team is never desperate!"

Original Quote: A LeBron James team is never desperate" - Lebron James

Original Reaction: Got some attention in blogs, but nothing on ESPN, so obviously, it wasn't that big of a deal to most. After all, this is "King James"....he gets a free pass, no matter what he says. However, what would the reaction have been if Kobe Bryant so boldly referred to himself in the third person and claimed that a team led by him is never desperate?

Expected Reaction To Kobe Bryant:

This is why I hate Kobe Bryant. He is arrogant, and so full of himself. Listen to him, referring to himself in the third person! Who does he think he is, Lebron James?? Plus, the Lakers haven't won anything! He's not MJ, he'll never be MJ!!!

2. "Yo Shaq, How's A First Round Exit taste?"

Original Action: Shaquille O'Neal unleashes a freestyle asking the Mamba how his ass tastes, following the 2008 NBA Finals. "Last week, Kobe couldn't do it without me!" he says.

Original Reaction: "That's just Shaq being Shaq! He's so funny!" It's hilarious when The Big Irrelevant does it, but what would the reaction have been if Kobe Bean was the one freestyling and the words "Shaq" had been uttered even once during that freestyle?

Edit: The perfect place to find ACTUAL reactions to these situations are on ESPN, where some pretty stupid, biased and exceedingly young people continue to post, regardless of whether or not they posess proper grammar skills, or basketball knowledge beyond the year 2004. Anyways, here is an actual post from one of the ESPN commenters:

jacorey32 (1 hour ago)

piratelife are you serious, Kobe the most hated arrogant player/rappist in the NBA. why are you all hating shaq i don't understand. this man has 4 rings that 1 more than kobe and 3 finals mvps thats 3 more than kobe. oh wait Kobe does have the biggest choke series ever by and NBA Most vaulable player. did you watch the Boston series. How they kept saying greatest on the planet. sorry MJ never lost a 24 point lead, MJ never got beat by 40 to close a finals series wait Shaq never lost a 24 point lead wait Shaq neverl lost by 40 points to close out a series. And for all those they say that Shaq has been washed up. If I remember correctly Shaq has been in the playoffs every year since leaving the Lakers yr 1 Eastern Confrence against Pistons, yr 2 Title yr 3 playoffs with Phoenix. what did kobe do oh yeah due to lakers and favorable calls against Spurs they made it to the finals because from a buisness prospective it was a more profitable matchup. Just to discover they were clearly outmatched and didn't belong there. and to introduce the world to there new MVP Sir Choky Bryant. the ******

Expected Reaction To Kobe Bryant:

Kobe Bryant is so full of himself. He thinks he's a rapper. Stick to playing ball Kobe! Wow, he sucks at freestyling! He's just so...fake. Just look at him holding that microphone. He thinks he's Tupac. More importantly, he just lost in the Finals! Kobe hasn't won anything since Shaq left! Shaq made him what he is! He's not MJ, he'll never be MJ!!!!

3. Paul Pierce: "B's Upppp!"

Original Action: Paul Pierce throws up a bloods gang-sign subsequently after Al Horford drops him and talks trash. Pierce, reverting back to his Cali days, walks over to mid-court and throws up a "blood, sweat and tears" sign....according to Danny Ainge.

Original Reaction: Varied. From Danny Ainge claiming Pierce was signaling "blood, sweat and tears" (which makes me laugh everytime I read it) to people reassuring themselves once again that the NBA is full of thugs, to people debating whether or not it really was a bloods sign in the first place. The action did generate some contreversy, but nothing compared to what it would have been had Kobe Bryant done that in the first round against the Denver Nuggets after Kenyon Martin talked some smack to him.

Expected Reaction To Kobe Bryant:

Kobe is not a gangster. He grew up in Italy. He's so fake. How can he be throwing up gang signs, he has no street credibility! Everyone knows the main thing that basketball players want is street credibility, because you know, carrying yourself intelligently is out of the question! Kobe thinks he's a gangster. He's no Paul Pierce. That was not a blood, sweat and tears sign! Kobe Bryant thinks he's so hood. He's a fake; a phony! This is the difference between him and Michael Jordan, he always tries to be something he's not. He's not MJ, he'll never be MJ!!!!

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Old 06-29-2008, 10:57 PM   #2
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"He's not MJ, he'll never be MJ!!!!"

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Old 06-30-2008, 12:04 AM   #3
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That is pretty standard Kobe fan complaining about how their hero is treated stuff. Nothing really new. Kobe gets a bit more heat that most players because he is unlikeable, and many of his fans are deranged and irritating. This, in addition to many actions on his part, puts people in negative mindset in regards to his actions.
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Old 06-30-2008, 12:08 AM   #4
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Kobe is definitely the most polarizing person in sports today....



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Old 06-30-2008, 12:10 AM   #5
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That is pretty standard Kobe fan complaining about how their hero is treated stuff. Nothing really new. Kobe gets a bit more heat that most players because he is unlikeable, and many of his fans are deranged and irritating. This, in addition to many actions on his part, puts people in negative mindset in regards to his actions.
Kobe fan or not. What was said is true. NBA Players like Kobe. Media doesn't like Kobe.
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Old 06-30-2008, 12:15 AM   #6
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Old 06-30-2008, 12:46 AM   #7
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Who cares what the media likes even people who hate kobe still respect him as the best player in the nba today.
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Who cares what the media likes even people who hate kobe still respect him as the best player in the nba today.

C/S....It's no secret people don't like the guy. I hope Kobe has come to that realization by this point is his career. Who gives a damn if people like you or not. Play ball, and win games. It's always good to have fan support, but if you are going to be the villian, make sure you try to go out on top embracing that role. I think Kobe realized this the 05-06 season.

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Old 06-30-2008, 03:01 AM   #9
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Kobe would get a different reaction cause he's a douche.

I mean 2 people could tell the same exact joke. One guy would have everyone rolling while the other would receive nothing but dead silence. It doesnt mean that people are treating one guy unfairly while trying to praise the other guy. It just means that one guy has a knack for telling jokes and the other one doesnt.

Like with Kobe. He's a douche and those other guys arent. And if Kobe wasn't on the Lakers, Laker fans would be saying the same thing.
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Old 06-30-2008, 03:10 AM   #10
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Kobe fan or not. What was said is true. NBA Players like Kobe. Media doesn't like Kobe.

Yeah Im sure his teammates were thrilled when he threw them under the bus, and the "Kobe is the real GM of the Lakers"-comments a few years back doesnt say anything about what happens if you oppose yourself to Kobe?

And Im sure Ray and Raja just loooove him, and what about all big free agents that have signed with the Lakers the last couple of years eh? They sure looove playing with Kobe because that sure seems like a happy happy place.

And youre really ignorant if you cant see the difference between Kobes public image and Shaq and the effect it has on their respective actions.
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If you guys really want to go there, for every name you bring up that you claim does not like Kobe, I could bring up 2 that say they actually have no problem with him, he's great, ext. Not that it matters. People look too deep into this. This is Basketball. The NBA. Yet we treat it like it's the WWE.

Only thing missing is Kobe and Shaq getting into a scuffle, Kobe getting the upper hand, Jack Nicholson grabbing steel chair to hit Shaq with, then popping Kobe upside the dome for the biggest upset/backstab in Lakers/NBA History.

EDIT; Raja is not 'buddy buddy' by any means with Kobe, but just so you DO KNOW, his distaste for Kobe has simmered. The two actually shake hands, and laugh on the court now. That's not hate, and it's not friendship. More like mutual respect amongst his peers, which people think he lacks.
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Old 06-30-2008, 03:23 AM   #12
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ISH has a Kobe-Bryant-Thread
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