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Old 03-14-2009, 03:27 PM   #16
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Typical imbecile WC.

Anyways it's got to be primary nurture with a minor nature. I just don't see how genetics predispose someone to rise to the top aside from perhaps how attractive they are, the quality of their voice, instable emotions vs. calmness, or a simple Surname, being the first borned outta la familia?

Everythang else prob derives from your experiences growin' up. The charisma and wit you acquire from associatin' with da proper people 'round u. The love for shouting out orders (which I feel is the most dominant qualitya ll leaders share), the ability to thrive in that position thru rain and sunshine, maintaining a solid self-esteem.

They say philosopher-kings are potentially the best. Moreso than a clerical Imam or a warrior-king? What say you ISH?


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Old 03-14-2009, 09:16 PM   #17
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Suck a d!ck and choke to death on it you raging homosexual.


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Old 03-14-2009, 09:35 PM   #18
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Look I wasn't trying to offend you or anything but could you have possibly made a dumber one-liner. Like for real I know some folks troll.. jot down sh!t to get they post count up but you reached the absolute pinnacle of failure in that short insightless sentence. And I know you're a smart guy, you just don't apply yourself.

No need to bring my sexual orientation into the mix
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Old 03-14-2009, 10:11 PM   #19
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Leaders can be made. People can be taught by their previous leader, or they can learn to become a leader through observation. Failure may happen, but with failure, comes accomplishment....if the people are willing to adjust.
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Old 03-14-2009, 10:24 PM   #20
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Quite obviously no wrong answer here, but if it has to be so black/white, I side with made. So if you're only looking for one side to be disproven v-unit, good luck.

Innate traits like IQ and aptitude could determine the field a person embarks upon, they don't determine one's success. These innate qualities need to be coupled with learned one like self-awareness and empathy for the fellow man.
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Old 03-14-2009, 10:34 PM   #21
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both.

your life experience and self confidence are the biggest determinating factors and they can be altered greatly throughout your life.
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Old 04-20-2009, 11:46 AM   #22
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It depends on one's personality. I don't see how one can become a leader. Either you have it, or you don't.

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Old 04-20-2009, 12:27 PM   #23
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Made: George Bush
Born: Theodore Roosevelt
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Old 04-20-2009, 01:19 PM   #24
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You have the Great Men Theory and the Behaviour Theory contrasting each other-Which is right? I think leaders can be made, just like people can be made into elite basketball players if they don't have that intention (Pete Maravich/Yao Ming). They could also be born (Michael Jordan/Hitler IMO)

Can any one give arguments for only one answer to be right?

There is a whole subfield of psychology devoted to leadership and training.

I believe the current belief is that people are born within a certain "range" of leadership ability, and one can be trained to maximize that leadership potential.
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Old 04-20-2009, 03:28 PM   #25
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obviously made..
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Old 04-20-2009, 03:58 PM   #26
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They're born.

If two people grow up with the exact same experiences and conditions, it doesn't guarantee that both will be leaders or that either one of them will.

Its something that you're born with, many people just don't develop it or get a chance to shine.

I don't think its that hard or grey. Its actually very black and white.

You're either born with it or not.
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