What's the probability Trump gets re-elected after all this chaos?

[FultzNationRISE]

I expect Trump to win and factors like incumbency along with a boring Democrat candidate to be enough for him to win. I'll be more interested if someone has a long term vision of how to fix the economy, how to address race relations, etc.

While I'm not a Trump supporter ill admit in '16, he was the only one that tapped into the frustrations that lingered from the 08 financial crisis and was talking about trade screwing over middle America.

However, in '20 he will have a tougher sell to put the country back together. While the Democrats ****ed up by not looking for a generational leader for the 20s

This issue is, Presidents and politicians in general have limited ability to fix these things. Theres no magic wand, and unless you want a government literally deciding which industries employ how many people and which people and how long they work etc, itÂ’s up to the public themselves to get what they want. In a society this large and with 50 states there will inevitably be a need for some regulation, but IMO that is essentially to prevent too much conflict between states, businesses, consumers etc. as well as interacting with foreign countries. ItÂ’s more of a mediation role. The government cannot wave a wand and make a good economy. They cant pronounce a law that makes everyone prosper.

In America there is a huge chasm between what various cultures and individuals value, desire, prioritize, and are even capable of. An “equal” society will be the product of people with similar ability and values, because equality means the same. Imagine putting 5 people on a basketball court, one of them is Michael Jordan, the other is an Amish girl who never played basketball, one is a 50 year old insurance salesman who played some ball in high school, the other is a paraplegic with a mean jumper from his wheelchair and the other is Joe Biden or Donald Trump.

Now go ahead and expect them all to perform equally on the court.

ItÂ’s silly right?

Accepting communities with different values, different histories, different parental emphasis, and even different evolutions is not a recipe for sustained equality. If you want government stewards checking in on every home to make sure all kids study for equal time, go to bed at equal time etc... maybe we get closer.

But in a free society, melting pot? I dunno. You can redistribute everything now and then, but it will always shift back. Some folks who emphasize careers like law and finance will relate to each other, work together for mutual gain, lonby the government, while folks who emphasize reliance on government subsidy will always shift lower.

And the people at the top are also competing with each other, for pride. So if they can find a lil opportunity, maybe something a lil sketchy, to get that extra extension on their home or whatever... theyre gonna do it.

I mean theres a reason socialism is always part and parcel with a dictator. Equality doesnt happen naturally. It has to be forcibly coerced. And even then... it doesnt work. Corruption and inequality are still endemic, save for very homogenous communities.

We have to ask some tough questions in America and accept some honest answers. I dont think the public is willing to do that.

[PistolPete]

He better not. I want him to lose in November to Biden up front and center then publicly admit to losing.

I will start up a GoFundMe campaign to get you the medical and mental treatments you require. Americans helping Americans.

[Hawker]

Joe Biden just suggested to shoot a black person in the leg instead of the chest if they are unarmed or have a knife. Nice.

[FultzNationRISE]

This is the new blueprint for the left. Riots, protests, violence, property destruction and arson when they don't get what they want. It will only escalate. We saw it to a smaller degree after the election and we are seeing it again now.

The DNC convention is going to be a total shitshow once again. They'll probably bring in the military to protect their precious and privileged elites inside.

Feels like a Cuban revolution in many ways, where unrest will eventually lead to exile of the competent and capable, and while there will temporary inheritance of wealth by the lower classes... it will be squandered quickly and the economy will turn ugly for the long term.


Tis a shame.

[sd3035]

More minorities are starting to recognize they've been used and lied to by the "democratic" party all these years

Landslide victory for Big Donny T

[RRR3]

Joe Biden just suggested to shoot a black person in the leg instead of the chest if they are unarmed or have a knife. Nice.

I almost think he wants to lose. Can you imagine the debates?

DT: Sleepy Joe! He’s very tired, folks, he needs a rocking chair. Sad. Low energy.

JB: Now look here, fat. Push up contest. Right now...and uh...you know...Obama and I are great friends and uh...vote for me if you’re black...

[PistolPete]

I almost think he wants to lose. Can you imagine the debates?

DT: Sleepy Joe! He’s very tired, folks, he needs a rocking chair. Sad. Low energy.

JB: Now look here, fat. Push up contest. Right now...and uh...you know...Obama and I are great friends and uh...vote for me if you’re black...

[Hawker]

I almost think he wants to lose. Can you imagine the debates?

DT: Sleepy Joe! He’s very tired, folks, he needs a rocking chair. Sad. Low energy.

JB: Now look here, fat. Push up contest. Right now...and uh...you know...Obama and I are great friends and uh...vote for me if you’re black...

The thing is - he got a lot of the black vote which is how he beat Bernie. Sure, you can blame "the elites" for "misleading" them but at the end of the day they have to take responsibility for voting him in.

[RRR3]

The thing is - he got a lot of the black vote which is how he beat Bernie. Sure, you can blame "the elites" for "misleading" them but at the end of the day they have to take responsibility for voting him in.

He did do great with the older black generation for sure. IIRC black people under 40 voted for Bernie though. Biden generally does great with older voters, which is part of how he beat Bernie (besides DNC and media ****ery). Unfortunately for Biden, Trump does great with older voters too. So he loses that advantage. It’s true he will still have the edge in the black vote against Trump, but I think he won’t get the youth vote like he and the democratic establishment think he will. Like I said earlier, Biden doesn’t talk about change. That’s how Obama won. Sure Obama was a neoliberal ghoul and didn’t actually shake things up like he promised but his messaging was good. Trump is the same. He promised lots of change but didn’t deliver. The thing is, people don’t pay attention enough to realize Obama and Trump weren’t actually reformers. Sure both had some accomplishments but for the most part they were standard politicians for their respective parties. Biden refuses to even use messaging promising change. So what exactly are people supposed to be excited for? He’s basically running on “I’m not Trump”. That’s a losing strategy.

[TheMan]

No doubt Trump's reelection chances are likely greater than 100% now if they were not before.

Lol

[TheMan]

Obama was the most divisive President in history. He made everything rich vs poor, black vs. white, male vs female, etc.... He took every single opportunity to sew discord and promote division with the media sycophants eagerly pumping our propaganda to help him along. Trump has done nothing to promote division despite having an uphill battle during his entire Presidency fighting against a fake Russian collusion scheme cooked up by Obama and his cronies because they were scared shitless Trump would come in and find everything they had done wrong from spying on Trumps campaign and incoming administration to spying on journalist and other heads of state. Trump replaced the worst and most crooked President in the history of this great country.

ROFL!

Two comedic gold posts by the Rocketman

[Draz]

Trump is losing to himself at this point.

He can't even address the nation, let alone do it in a non-bias way to bring peace and justice. He's been awfully quiet and when he does speak up, puts the nation in further danger. These businesses are going to vote for what happened to them.

[FultzNationRISE]

Trump is losing to himself at this point.

He can't even address the nation, let alone do it in a non-bias way to bring peace and justice. He's been awfully quiet and when he does speak up, puts the nation in further danger. These businesses are going to vote for what happened to them.

Bro, be real. Any time he’s tried to do that, his detractors literally just run automatically to the opposite end of anything he says.

The hate for Trump far, far, far supersedes any kind of hate or nefarious intentions Trump has in his own heart.

The people making him out to be Satan incarnate are the actual screwloose neurotic rejects in society, and theyre using him as an outlet for all their rage and inner torment.

At this point he has no reason to reach out to these people. They never have and never will give him a chance, because theyd rather confront a boogieman than face their own demons and inadequacy.

[Draz]

Bro, be real. Any time he’s tried to do that, his detractors literally just run automatically to the opposite end of anything he says.

The hate for Trump far, far, far supersedes any kind of hate or nefarious intentions Trump has in his own heart.

The people making him out to be Satan incarnate are the actual screwloose neurotic rejects in society, and theyre using him as an outlet for all their rage and inner torment.

At this point he has no reason to reach out to these people. They never have and never will give him a chance, because theyd rather confront a boogieman than face their own demons and inadequacy.

True. Anything he says will be misconstrued. I think he needs to address the looters and the violence people are projecting onto small businesses. Breaks my heart man. These are all some people have. I can care less about Rolex or Nike and Adidas in NY.

I have no issue with people peacefully protesting. 2 miles away from where I'm at one of the most ghetto places - Jamaica Ave - peacefully protested WITH the cops.

Where I'm from we don't hate the cops, they're actually decent human beings.

[FultzNationRISE]

True. Anything he says will be misconstrued. I think he needs to address the looters and the violence people are projecting onto small businesses. Breaks my heart man. These are all some people have. I can care less about Rolex or Nike and Adidas in NY.

I have no issue with people peacefully protesting. 2 miles away from where I'm at one of the most ghetto places - Jamaica Ave - peacefully protested WITH the cops.

Where I'm from we don't hate the cops, they're actually decent human beings.

As I mentioned to highwhey recently, Ill readily agree he leans TOO heavily on the trolling and inflammatory shit at times. Im glad that he will show some “realness” at times unlike every other political weasel, corporate puppet President we’ve had. But he needs to not be so predictable. If he wanted to go on an outright charm and unity offensive for a few months, he could do that and basically expose the media for not REALLY caring about cooperation and helping the public. The media wants to burn Trump at the stake because thats what drives ratings and thats what gives them more power. The Democratic party, the establishment media... theyre EVERYTHING they accuse Trump of being. They dont WANT unity, cooperation, class equality etc.

They use Trump as a foil to make it look like HE’S preventing that... when they are. It’s Machiavellian shit 101.

Trump could and should do a better job of exposing it. He exposes it almost inadvertently to some extent just by being President and being himself. But he could make that reality a lot clearer to people if he used more savvy in how to do it.