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02-02-2012, 09:47 PM
#151
NBA sixth man of the year
Re: The best point guard in the league
The both aren't the best PG.
But Derrick Rose is the better player
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02-02-2012, 11:19 PM
#152
Re: The best point guard in the league
Originally Posted by greymatter
All the work ethic and drive in the world can never substitute for IQ and decision making ability.
Look at it this way. If Paul had Rose's aggression, focus and energy he's the best player in the league. At Rose's speed and his aggression, a cerebral game means a lot less. An intuitive game means much more than an IQ game.
Rose might improve the latter over experience, but he'll never have elite PG skills or score at elite efficiency relative to his position. Sadly for Bulls fans, reality says that score first PGs with average true PG skills are never mentioned along with the greatest at the position.
Sadly for Bulls fans, reality says that nobody at 22 had won the MVP. Sadly for Bulls fans, reality says no other team, which had their young pointguard as their only star player, lead the league in wins despite there being super teams around. Sadly for Bulls fans Nash averaged half the number of assist Rose did at 22 years of age. And Rose out assisted a 22 year old Stockton as well.
In Rose second year he scored at elite efficiency relative to his position. His role however is to break the defense down primarily, and this lets the elite rebounders get a crack at the basket.
Last edited by Pointguard; 02-03-2012 at 01:44 AM.
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02-02-2012, 11:37 PM
#153
Bosh Saves MIA
Re: The best point guard in the league
Derrick Rose tonight : 32 pts on 46%, 13 AST, 1 STL.
Lets see what CP3 does..
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02-02-2012, 11:40 PM
#154
Local High School Star
Re: The best point guard in the league
Originally Posted by ThatsGame
Derrick Rose tonight : 32 pts on 46%, 13 AST, 1 STL.
Lets see what CP3 does..
should be 48% if you don't count the half court hail mary he put up.
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02-02-2012, 11:42 PM
#155
Re: The best point guard in the league
Originally Posted by ThatsGame
Derrick Rose tonight : 32 pts on 46%, 13 AST, 1 STL.
Lets see what CP3 does..
Yep, but I told you, without those dumb hail mary's and buzzer beater 3s, it would be higher
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02-02-2012, 11:52 PM
#156
Re: The best point guard in the league
CP3 is the most overrated player in the era. The guy is a role player, but people overrate him like he's a top 5 player. He is top 10, maybe, but no where near top 5. Please stop the overrating.
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02-02-2012, 11:59 PM
#157
Linja Status
Re: The best point guard in the league
So he's a role player and maybe top 10? Top notch shit right there.
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02-03-2012, 12:10 AM
#158
Good college starter
Re: The best point guard in the league
Originally Posted by ThatsGame
Derrick Rose tonight : 32 pts on 46%, 13 AST, 1 STL.
Lets see what CP3 does..
Chris Paul put up 34 points 5 rebounds 11 assists 3 steals on 63% shooting yesterday (vs UTAH).
26 points 14 assists 2 steals on 75% shooting the game before (vs OKC).
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02-03-2012, 12:29 AM
#159
Re: The best point guard in the league
Originally Posted by gyu
Chris Paul put up 34 points 5 rebounds 11 assists 3 steals on 63% shooting yesterday (vs UTAH).
26 points 14 assists 2 steals on 75% shooting the game before (vs OKC).
His FG percentage is so high because he always gets excellent looks. Rose is always heavily contested, even at the perimeter. You can't just watch CP3 since they are so many other Offensive options. With the Bulls though, if they aren't hot and feeling confident, all you have to do is look at Rose.
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02-03-2012, 01:42 AM
#160
I hit open 5-foot jumpshots with ease
Re: The best point guard in the league
Originally Posted by Celtics4ever
CP3 is the most overrated player in the era. The guy is a role player, but people overrate him like he's a top 5 player. He is top 10, maybe, but no where near top 5. Please stop the overrating.
???
I'm not a Chris Paul fan, but he is the top PG in the league right now and high up in my overall player rankings.
1. Lebron
2. Dwight
3. Durant
4. Wade (when he is fully healthy i'll be fine with him here)
5. CP3
6. Rose
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02-03-2012, 02:02 AM
#161
Bosh Saves MIA
Re: The best point guard in the league
Originally Posted by ThatsGame
Derrick Rose tonight : 32 pts on 46%, 13 AST, 1 STL.
Lets see what CP3 does..
Chris Paul tonight : 15 pts on 66%, 9 AST, 1 STL
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02-03-2012, 02:16 AM
#162
National High School Star
Re: The best point guard in the league
Originally Posted by ThatsGame
Chris Paul tonight : 15 pts on 66%, 9 AST, 1 STL
blow out loss...LMAO....
Look people omparing Cp3s FG% to derrick Rose's is asinine....Paul scores priarily off of PnR, he's not contested nearly as much as D-rose, he generally gets open shots whenever he shoots. That like comparing Bryant and James knowing that 90% of Kobe points come off jumpers and 1/3 of LBJ points come from inside.
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02-03-2012, 02:18 AM
#163
Mozart Basketball
Re: The best point guard in the league
Turning 38 in a few days, and still rolling those efficient numbers.
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02-03-2012, 02:31 AM
#164
National High School Star
Re: The best point guard in the league
Originally Posted by no pun intended
Turning 38 in a few days, and still rolling those efficient numbers.
still aint bin winning shit since amare and crew left.... He's a PnR pg i would hope he can be efficient. it;s make the game really easy.
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02-03-2012, 02:53 AM
#165
Re: The best point guard in the league
Originally Posted by Jef
???
I'm not a Chris Paul fan, but he is the top PG in the league right now and high up in my overall player rankings.
1. Lebron
2. Dwight
3. Durant
4. Wade (when he is fully healthy i'll be fine with him here)
5. CP3
6. Rose
Is this list a joke? CP3 is a role player. He barely sees double teams, half of his points come from uncontested jumpers he shoots because opposing defender is more worried about his teammates. Imagine if players like LeBron, Rose, Kobe, Durant had open looks like CP3 gets. You can't compare role players to leaders of a team.
I got:
1.Rose
2.LeBron
3.Durant
4.Kobe
5.Dwight
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