LeBron has played 11 seasons

[Im Still Ballin]

If the Love deal goes down. Watch out.

If they get Love and somehow keep wiggins while also getting dieng. game over.

[beastee]

No one will care about "2/5" a decade from now.

Actually, when discussing legacy...this is the only thing that will matter in a decade from now. If he can make it a respectable 4/7 then kudos to him. But a losing record in the finals does not a GOAT make.

[Roundball_Rock]

Actually, when discussing legacy...this is the only thing that will matter in a decade from now. If he can make it a respectable 4/7 then kudos to him. But a losing record in the finals does not a GOAT make.

Wilt was 2-4 in the Finals and many people have him as GOAT. You see this in other sports as well, i.e. P. Manning is 1-2 but some view him as the GOAT. As KBlaze noted in another thread, legacies are based on your biggest achievements, not your biggest failures. Magic Johnson was called "Tragic Johnson" after the 84' Finals and most people don't even know that let alone hold it against him when discussing him all-time.

[#number6ix#]

11 years in the league and already consider top 10 or 11 all time... He's doing something right

[riseagainst]

Wilt was 2-4 in the Finals and many people have him as GOAT. You see this in other sports as well, i.e. P. Manning is 1-2 but some view him as the GOAT. As KBlaze noted in another thread, legacies are based on your biggest achievements, not your biggest failures. Magic Johnson was called "Tragic Johnson" after the 84' Finals and most people don't even know that let alone hold it against him when discussing him all-time.

who has said Wilt is the GOAT?

[Soundwave]

Bron's had a good career, but he'll finish shy of Jordan. No shame in that. Still has a very good chance at landing in the top 5, maybe even top 3. Depends on how things go, especially the next two years for him (after that he will begin a natural decline as all players do).

Next two years will pretty much define his legacy IMO. Ideally he wins 2 titles then he is keeping pace with MJ, if only 1 that's OK, if 0 though ... then that will damage his case pretty badly.

It has to work out in Cleveland.

[Lebronxrings]

so you're telling me that that lebron has more finals, ecfs and ECSFs then jordan at the same age with a inferior team? WOW! Thats pretty good considering jordan had the best supporting cast in history.

[Lebronxrings]

Yeah LeBron skipped college but he did nothing to enhance his legacy his first 2 years (19 and 20 years old) so he didn't gain a relevant advantage--unless he winds up with the all-time scoring record.

So he came to the league early as a lone wolf, and didn't learn from anyone? Wow thats pretty impressive.

[Hey Yo]

But, but, but.....

College.




Lebon is 29 and still in the NBA. Did he enter the league earlier? Yeah good for him. He gave himself more chances to win. Let Lebron finish his career before talking about how he compares to Jordan. You'll probably get the results you were looking for anyways.

When you sign and play in Cleveland for your first 7yrs, you're not giving yourself more chances to win.

[Hey Yo]

Yeah LeBron skipped college but he did nothing to enhance his legacy his first 2 years (19 and 20 years old) so he didn't gain a relevant advantage--unless he winds up with the all-time scoring record.

When you're 19, straight from H.S, winning ROY for a historical garbage franchise while putting up 21-5-6....that helps one's legacy.

[04mzwach]

But, but, but.....

baseball

MJ stans always trying to hold it against other players who were more committed to the game and didn't take years off because of gambling and golf

His father died you bum

[Sarcastic]

MJ at 29: 3 MVP's, 3 rings, 3 Finals, 5 ECF's, 6 ECSF's
LJ at 29: 4 MVP's, 2 rings, 5 Finals, 6 ECF's, 9 ECSF's

Pretty close.

Bran had to run to Miami to get Wade to help him out.

[Meticode]

Bran had to run to Miami to get Wade to help him out.

Great thing about Jordan is he didn't have to run to get help. The Bulls drafted the help in Pippen.

[Sarcastic]

Great thing about Jordan is he didn't have to run to get help. The Bulls drafted the help in Pippen.

Wade + Bosh impact >>> Pippen impact.

(Bulls didn't draft Pippen btw)

[russwest0]

Great thing about Jordan is he didn't have to run to get help. The Bulls drafted the help in Pippen.

Cleveland drafted LeBrons help too, he just went to ringchase in his prime for a bit