Let's talk about White Flight

[ROCSteady]

you're talking about gentrification

which I only hear is big in NYC...I'm not hearing about that in other cities

[~primetime~]

yeah, okay it's happening in some other cities...lol


it still looks to be rare occurrence on a large scale though

you live in DC and that looks to be one of the few places highly effected

[ALBballer]

from quick googling around it looks like gentrification is somewhat rare and has only big a 'big deal' in a handful of cities...NYC, Boston, DC, Seattle, San Fran, and Chicago.

looks like it's harm to the poor that were once there is debatable too...

Seems like a great thing to happen to a city to me ...this is what has happened to NYC over the years:

It's more than a handful of cities...

Yeah there are definitely positives to "gentrifications" but anytime where some minorities or poor whites are being displaced by evil "white" people there will be a negative connotations attached to it.

[DeuceWallaces]

Just stop talking. I can't believe you're being serious.

[~primetime~]

Just stop talking. I can't believe you're being serious.

Oh STFU

many don't even know wtf gentrification is ffs

stop acting like it's common knowledge...

[~primetime~]

It's more than a handful of cities...

Yeah there are definitely positives to "gentrifications" but anytime where some minorities or poor whites are being displaced by evil "white" people there will be a negative connotations attached to it.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_a...as_people.html

[DeuceWallaces]

Anyway, no point arguing with PT about urban sociology.

If anyone is actually interested in white flight they should read:

American Apartheid, The Origins of the Urban Crisis, or Crabgrass Frontier. They're all excellent books on the topic.

[senelcoolidge]

Where I live there are some neighborhoods that you can tell were once decent. But the white people moved out. The minorities moved in and just didn't take care of anything. There's a neighborhood not that far from where I live where there are so many houses, decent looking houses, but the people there don't care. It's such a waste. At least have some freaking pride. They rather hike crime than maintain what really would be a nice place to live in. I bet the homes in that area are cheap, big houses..but people there rather sell drugs and kill each other. Such a waste.
Like someone told me you know how to tell a black home from a white home..the grass on the front lawn.

[~primetime~]

you never presented an argument unless "u serious"? is an argument

[blablabla]

Sure gentrification prices out many minorities but the minorities that are landowners actual benefit the most.

Do they? Aren't they also being forced out because of the increasing property tax which they can't afford ?

[ALBballer]

Do they? Aren't they also being forced out because of the increasing property tax which they can't afford ?

That would depend on the city since property taxes are run on a local level. In California for example this shouldn't be the case since property taxes are 1% of the sale price with limited raises each year.

[9erempiree]

from quick googling around it looks like gentrification is somewhat rare and has only big a 'big deal' in a handful of cities...NYC, Boston, DC, Seattle, San Fran, and Chicago.

looks like it's harm to the poor that were once there is debatable too...

Seems like a great thing to happen to a city to me ...this is what has happened to NYC over the years:

Glad you brought this up.

Giuliani and Trump spearheaded the new movement at the time and cleaned up New York City.

[Jailblazers7]

There is some interesting analysis out there showing that gentrification is pushing poor people out to the suburbs which will turn into a big problem. Concentrated poverty without the benefits of the downtown transportation and social infrastructure.

[ThePhantomCreep]

Glad you brought this up.

Giuliani and Trump spearheaded the new movement at the time and cleaned up New York City.

Trump?

How long before 9erempiree gives the "you're fired" guy credit for the polio vaccine? You know it's coming.

The drop in crime in the mid-90s was part of a nationwide trend. Giuliani's policies had little to do with it.

[nathanjizzle]

theres a thing happening in chicago called gentrification where young white people are pushing out the lower income ethnic people from their neighborhoods because geographically it is attractive due to its proximity to the metro area.