Blacks "tricked" into electing white guy

[OldSkoolball#52]

those guys were republican BEFORE the civil rights act of 1964 (which MLK facilitated.. and which drove the racist democrats to the republican party)

nice try tho... figures you would need to go back to the 60s to find some republican blacks to misrepresent..

also the question at hand revolves around the tea party.. not the 1964 republican party which was a totally different animal..

Allen West
Herman Cain
EW Jackson
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They don't garner any black support its not race that is the main factor.. its the fact that they are obviously political hacks

The Civil Rights Act has nothing to do with any Tea Party positions today. And I said conservative, I did not say Republican. I am fully aware of MLK's disillusionment with the Republican political party, however even his children have made clear that he had primarily conservative values.


So again I would ask you:


Which tea party positions would conservatives like Jackie Robinson, Sammy Davis Jr, Martin Luther King etc. have opposed?

[OldSkoolball#52]

I already know you won't answer.

And the reason is because you CANT, but you'll pretend like it's because you don't want to.


I remember that tactic from 1st grade.

[Dolphin]

And the reason is because you CANT, but you'll pretend like it's because you don't want to.
.

You actually have it backwards unless his arms were cut off or something.....lol

[Rasheed1]

The Civil Rights Act has nothing to do with any Tea Party positions today.

You are the one who brought up people from the 60s to address a the tea party positions of today.. Im simply stating the difference between republican party MLK supported and the right wing politics of today..

And I said conservative, I did not say Republican.

MLK was probably conservative on some fiscal issues, but he was obviously very liberal when it came to social issues

the is a difference

I am fully aware of MLK's disillusionment with the Republican political party, however even his children have made clear that he had primarily conservative values.

I will repeat... He was very liberal when it came to social issues.. he was not a conservative socially..

So again I would ask you:


Which tea party positions would conservatives like Jackie Robinson, Sammy Davis Jr, Martin Luther King etc. have opposed?

Sammy Davis was a weird person, so I cannot speak for him,, But MLK and Jackie Robinson would definitely be opposed to tea party stance on social issues...

property rights do not trump equality of human beings in the eyes of these 2. Rand Paul's tea party arguments would not be something that would jibe with MLK or Jackie Robinson. He said himself he would have voted against the civil rights act of 64 due to the property rights issues..

That definitely wasn't MLK's position on the issues.. he fought for laws that forbid discrimination in businesses.

MLK was considered to be a socialist in his day because of his affiliations and his crusade against the Vietnam war... Is that in line with the tea party rhetoric?? Hell NO..

MLK and Jackie Robinson wouldn't be voting for tea party loons if they were alive today.. Sammy Davis?? Maybe he would don't know..

that said, the point is that black people vote for white people all the time.. they have been doing since they got the right to vote.. Longhorn is a jackass for insinuating that a white tea party member is less likely to draw a vote from the black community than a black tea party member.. They are all hacks and none of them get support from blacks regardless of their race..

[Rasheed1]

I already know you won't answer.

And the reason is because you CANT, but you'll pretend like it's because you don't want to.


I remember that tactic from 1st grade.

you never cease to amaze me with how dumb you are

[OldSkoolball#52]

You are the one who brought up people from the 60s to address a the tea party positions of today.. Im simply stating the difference between republican party MLK supported and the right wing politics of today..










MLK was probably conservative on some fiscal issues, but he was obviously very liberal when it came to social issues

the is a difference





I will repeat... He was very liberal when it came to social issues.. he was not a conservative socially..

"Very liberal" on social issues?

So do you believe MLK would have supported gay marriage and abortion? These are the current 'social issues' that the Tea Party is outspoken about. Are you telling me devout christian MLK would have stood in opposition to these issues? He would have supported gay marriage and abortion? You know the answer to this.

Yes, his position on black civil rights would classify as liberal in his time. But you are making assumptions that today's Tea Partiers are all racists who would have opposed black civil rights.


Do you know who Fred Phelps? The leader of the Westboro Baptist Church. The man who pickets the funerals of dead soldiers with signs that say "God Hates OP". Also the man who has been awarded by the NAACP for his work on behalf of advancing black equality. Fred Phelps brought suit against Ronald Reagan for appointing an ambassador to the Vatican claiming he was violating separation of church and state.


Nothing in the Tea Party's official agenda today has anything that would likely have been opposed by christian black civil rights leaders including Martin Luther King Jr. Your agenda is to portray all Tea Partiers the same, as closet racists. Just as you tried to portray all Catholics as interpreting the bible literally. And you say I'm the one who generalizes people? You do it every bit as much while making far less salient points.

[Rasheed1]

"Very liberal" on social issues?

So do you believe MLK would have supported gay marriage and abortion.
These are the current 'social issues' that the Tea Party is outspoken about. Are you telling me devout christian MLK would have stood in opposition to these issues? He would have supported gay marriage and abortion? You know the answer to this.

MLK was a human rights activist above all else... He stood with many people on various issues.. He stood with Malcolm X (they had plenty of differences)... He stood with socialists (they had many differences)

he was a civil rights activist.. he was not some religious goon who pushed for everyone to believe exactly what he did.. he was for human rights.. even gays, socialists & women

Yes, his position on black civil rights would classify as liberal in his time. But you are making assumptions that today's Tea Partiers are all racists who would have opposed black civil rights.

Im not making any assumptions... you are the one making assumptions... You are the one turning the thread inside out because you chose to pick MLK and 2 others as the supposed template for what ALL blacks would or should do.. another false argument on your part.. this is all speculation and another game played by you.... I'll play simply because I know Im smarter than you so it doesn't matter game you play...

Like I said earlier.. MLK was partially conservative BEFORE the 1964 civil rights act.. that is very different from the republicans of today.. It is very different from the tea party rhetoric we see today..

you think MLK would be walking around yelling about state's rights?? are you stupid?

Do you know who Fred Phelps? The leader of the Westboro Baptist Church. The man who pickets the funerals of dead soldiers with signs that say "God Hates OP". Also the man who has been awarded by the NAACP for his work on behalf of advancing black equality. Fred Phelps brought suit against Ronald Reagan for appointing an ambassador to the Vatican claiming he was violating separation of church and state.

WTF does that have to do with anything?? nothing at all... just something you decided to pull out of your troll ass ..

Nothing in the Tea Party's official agenda today has anything that would likely have been opposed by christian black civil rights leaders including Martin Luther King Jr.

Then why don't they have any Christian black support??? It isn't because the tea party is white, because there are plenty of white politicians and groups that do receive black (and even black christian support)..

Your agenda is to portray all Tea Partiers the same, as closet racists.

wrong again.. My agenda is what I stated earlier.. to say that blacks vote for white people all the time... always have.. It doesn't matter if a tea party member is black or white, they still don't get black support because they are loons..

you can whine and pretend its my fault, but it is fact, and it their own fault they don't..

Allen west
EW Jackson
Herm Cain

^those guys are all black and tea party types... and guess what starface?? They get no black support.. ZERO

That's the point.. its about their politics, not their race

Just as you tried to portray all Catholics as interpreting the bible literally.

I see someone is still mad about getting smacked down in a separate thread

don't take my word for it .... look up catholic doctrine and get back to me on that one... I only told the truth. I was taught that doctrine by catholic priests and nuns.. And you played yourself by challenging me (as usual.. lol)

[travelingman]

I'm black. No reason to lie.

[OldSkoolball#52]

MLK was a human rights activist above all else... He stood with many people on various issues.. He stood with Malcolm X (they had plenty of differences)... He stood with socialists (they had many differences)

he was a civil rights activist.. he was not some religious goon who pushed for everyone to believe exactly what he did.. he was for human rights.. even gays, socialists & women



Im not making any assumptions... you are the one making assumptions... You are the one turning the thread inside out because you chose to pick MLK and 2 others as the supposed template for what ALL blacks would or should do.. another false argument on your part.. this is all speculation and another game played by you.... I'll play simply because I know Im smarter than you so it doesn't matter game you play...

Like I said earlier.. MLK was partially conservative BEFORE the 1964 civil rights act.. that is very different from the republicans of today.. It is very different from the tea party rhetoric we see today..

you think MLK would be walking around yelling about state's rights?? are you stupid?




WTF does that have to do with anything?? nothing at all... just something you decided to pull out of your troll ass ..




Then why don't they have any Christian black support??? It isn't because the tea party is white, because there are plenty of white politicians and groups that do receive black (and even black christian support)..




wrong again.. My agenda is what I stated earlier.. to say that blacks vote for white people all the time... always have.. It doesn't matter if a tea party member is black or white, they still don't get black support because they are loons..

you can whine and pretend its my fault, but it is fact, and it their own fault they don't..

Allen west
EW Jackson
Herm Cain

^those guys are all black and tea party types... and guess what starface?? They get no black support.. ZERO

That's the point.. its about their politics, not their race



I see someone is still mad about getting smacked down in a separate thread

don't take my word for it .... look up catholic doctrine and get back to me on that one... I only told the truth. I was taught that doctrine by catholic priests and nuns.. And you played yourself by challenging me (as usual.. lol)

Too much horse feces here to respond to all of this, particularly because it doesnt relate to the only thing I commented on. You say black people won't vote for the Tea Party because they are loons.

I am asking you specifically which positions of the Tea Party do you suppose someone like MLK would object to.

You continue to call them loons while continuing to evade supporting that assertion.

[Rasheed1]

Too much horse feces here to respond to all of this

you won't respond because you CANT you aren't smart enough

particularly because it doesnt relate to the only thing I commented on. You say black people won't vote for the Tea Party because they are loons.

you warped the whole thread with irrelevant BS about MLK and people who been dead, trying to place them in today's politics

the main issue is whether or not blacks would vote for a white candidate without having to be "tricked" into it..

your attention whoring is irrelevant

I am asking you specifically which positions of the Tea Party do you suppose someone like MLK would object to.

You continue to call them loons while continuing to evade supporting that assertion.

I told you already.. MLK was a human rights activist above all else.. He didn't place property above human beings.. he wasn't a loon on the issue of 'state's rights'

[MadeFromDust]

lmao the reverse racists are pissed