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Old 05-20-2019, 11:42 AM   #181
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How did he win a Finals with 4 reb and 2 assists?

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Old 05-20-2019, 12:36 PM   #182
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KJ won 53-55 games with the Suns from 89-92', which includes making the 89' WCF and demolishing Magic's favored Lakers to make the 90' WCF..

^^^That's better than pippen ever did...

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KJ:.. 17.9.. 3.3.. 9.1.. 58.5 ts.. 118 ortg.. 20.7 PER.. 0.178 ws/48
Pip:. 16.2.. 6.4.. 5.2.. 53.6 ts.. 108 ortg.. 18.6 PER.. 0.146 ws/48


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KJ:.. 19.3.. 3.3.. 8.9.. 55.7 ts.. 113 ortg.. 19.1 PER.. 0.117 ws/48
Pip:. 17.5.. 7.6.. 5.0.. 52.4 ts.. 108 ortg.. 18.4 PER.. 0.140 ws/48

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Similarly, Jordan carried Pippen

91-93' Playoffs

MJ:. 34 on 52%.. 6.6 apg.. 2.9 TO.. 31.1 ast%.. 36.1 usg.. 120 ortg.. 29.5 PER
Pip:. 20 on 47%.. 6.1 apg.. 3.4 TO.. 23.3 ast%.. 24.9 usg.. 109 ortg..19.6 PER


96-98' Playoffs

MJ:. 31.4 on 45.9%.. 4.1 apg.. 2.3 TO.. 22.3 ast%.. 35.1 usg.. 118 ortg.. 27.3 PER
Pip:. 17.6 on 40.8%.. 5.0 apg.. 2.7 TO.. 22.0 ast%.. 23.4 usg.. 109 ortg.. 19.0 PER

No one ever scored that much more than their 2nd option to win rings AND equaled them in assists
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Old 05-20-2019, 12:37 PM   #183
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LOL

Didn't Scottie Pippen average 21/8/7 for three straight finals while providing better defense than Jordan

GOAT 2nd option
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Old 05-20-2019, 12:48 PM   #184
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LOL

Didn't Scottie Pippen average 21/8/7 for three straight finals while providing better defense than Jordan

GOAT 2nd option

Pippen was only good for 3 seasons next to MJ (91-93') - he was bad in every series for the other 7 years (88-90 and 95-98'):

1988 PLAYOFFS:. 10.0 on 46.5%

1989 PLAYOFFS:. 13.1 on 46.2% (9.7 on 40.4% in ecf)

1990 ECF. vs. DET:. 16.6 on 42.8% (2 pts, 1-10 in game 7)

1992 ECSF vs NYN:. 16.0 on 40.2%

1994 ECSF vs NYN:. 21.7 on 40.5%

1995 ECSF vs ORL:. 19.0 on 40.9%

1996 ECSF vs NYN:. 15.6 on 33.0%
1996 FINAL vs SEA:. 15.7 on 34.3%

1997 RD 1 vs WAS:. 16.7 on 38.3%
1997 ECF. vs. MIA:. 16.8 on 41.7%

1998 ECFS vsN IND:. 16.6 on 39.2%
1998 FINAL vs UTA:. 15.7 on 41.0%

Pippen's stats during 96-98' playoffs - 17 on 40.8%




It's hard on the eyes, ain't it ..

It's like, how the hell did MJ win 6;rings with that hot garbage, ??..
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Old 05-20-2019, 01:10 PM   #185
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Pippen was only good for 3 seasons next to MJ (91-93') - he was bad in every series for the other 7 years (88-90 and 95-98'):

1988 PLAYOFFS:. 10.0 on 46.5%

1989 PLAYOFFS:. 13.1 on 46.2% (9.7 on 40.4% in ecf)

1990 ECF. vs. DET:. 16.6 on 42.8% (2 pts, 1-10 in game 7)

1992 ECSF vs NYN:. 16.0 on 40.2%

1994 ECSF vs NYN:. 21.7 on 40.5%

1995 ECSF vs ORL:. 19.0 on 40.9%

1996 ECSF vs NYN:. 15.6 on 33.0%
1996 FINAL vs SEA:. 15.7 on 34.3%

1997 RD 1 vs WAS:. 16.7 on 38.3%
1997 ECF. vs. MIA:. 16.8 on 41.7%

1998 ECFS vsN IND:. 16.6 on 39.2%
1998 FINAL vs UTA:. 15.7 on 41.0%

Pippen's stats during 96-98' playoffs - 17 on 40.8%




It's hard on the eyes, ain't it ..

It's like, how the hell did MJ win 6;rings with that hot garbage, ??..
When you face 10.7 ppg #2 options that helps

So does having Rodman, Grant, Kukoc, Kerr and Pippen..

Oh and some Phil Jackson guy
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Old 05-20-2019, 02:28 PM   #186
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When you face 10.7 ppg #2 options that helps

So does having Rodman, Grant, Kukoc, Kerr and Pippen..

Oh and some Phil Jackson guy

Rodman wasn't an offensive player and he made the bulls play 4 on 5 offensively IN ADDITION to pippen's anemic offense shown earlier - so MJ had to carry the biggest load ever (scoring champ for all his rings, plus team-leading apg or close)

And Rodman was only on the 2nd three-peat - so he never played with grant, who was a 12 ppg play-finisher similar to Tristan Thompson or Kevon Looney..

Ultimately, guys like grant, kukoc, and kerr are players every team has....for example:

Kerr < Rodney Hood or Derrick Rose (bron teammate).. maybe even Shane Battier or M Miller

kukoc < all-defense varejao (10') or Ray Allen or Korver or even Crowder....

89-93' Grant is less than the following 3rd options: 15' Mosgov, 10' Mo, 10' Shaq, 05' Drew Gooden.... and he's equal or barely better than Birdman, Haslem, Tristan, or 09' Zydrunas

Again, guys like grant, kukoc, and kerr are players every team has - ur ignorantly propping up role players because you never watched so you don't know how ridiculous it is, and also because you simply can't find actual stars on the bulls' roster!!!!!!!... ...

Oh how annoyed you must've been when you first looked up this so-called goat team you heard about - the look on your face when you realized there were only a couple stars and a bunch of replaceable... stiffs... let's be honest... that MJ elevated and was most valuable in winning 6 rings.. ah yes, the facts are a wonderful thing to have on your side..
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Old 05-20-2019, 02:33 PM   #187
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LOL

Didn't Scottie Pippen average 21/8/7 for three straight finals while providing better defense than Jordan

GOAT 2nd option

GOAT 2nd option? That would be 2017-19 Curry.

Though you could argue Magic in some of those Lakers runs or Big O with Kareem when they won.
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Old 05-20-2019, 02:34 PM   #188
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GOAT 2nd option? That would be 2017-19 Curry.

Though you could argue Magic in some of those Lakers runs or Big O with Kareem when they won.

Minimum of 3 runs so no

Should I bump the thread?
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Old 05-20-2019, 06:39 PM   #189
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Bro Jordan would have NEVER won without Pip. Pip was an all-time great perimeter defender. His offense is underrated only because he was in Mike's shadow. In 1994-5 and 1995-6 Pip scored an average of 22.2 points. I get Mike is a cold assassin on the court. WE all get that stuff. But to say Pip trash? Man, I don't know.
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Old 05-22-2019, 12:51 AM   #190
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Bro Jordan would have NEVER won without Pip. Pip was an all-time great perimeter defender. His offense is underrated only because he was in Mike's shadow. In 1994-5 and 1995-6 Pip scored an average of 22.2 points. I get Mike is a cold assassin on the court. WE all get that stuff. But to say Pip trash? Man, I don't know.
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Old 05-22-2019, 01:07 AM   #191
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Is Mike even top 5 at this point? I can make a case to slide him out soon

Bran
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Curry
Mike 6th?
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Old 05-22-2019, 01:09 AM   #192
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Is Mike even top 5 at this point? I can make a case to slide him out soon

Bran
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Mike 6th?

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Add me to the goat posters list too

And why do you keep saying "Wheels" arent you the one in a wheelchair?
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Old 05-22-2019, 01:14 AM   #194
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Is Mike even top 5 at this point? I can make a case to slide him out soon

Bran
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Is Mike even top 5 at this point? I can make a case to slide him out soon

Bran
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Magic
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Curry
Mike 6th?

You forgot Russell

That moves MJ to 7th
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