Message Board Basketball Forum - InsideHoops

Go Back   Message Board Basketball Forum - InsideHoops > InsideHoops Main Basketball Forums > Off the Court Lounge

Off the Court Lounge Basketball fans talk about everything EXCEPT basketball here

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 12-16-2012, 04:20 PM   #121
boozehound
An uglier Lamar Doom
 
boozehound's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 23,965
boozehound is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableboozehound is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableboozehound is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableboozehound is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableboozehound is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableboozehound is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableboozehound is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableboozehound is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableboozehound is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableboozehound is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableboozehound is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginable
Default Re: Man slashes 22 children near China school

Quote:
Originally Posted by LJJ
I clicked to through the link, but let's be honest here: Americans aren't so vehemently against gun control because they feel they need to protect themselves against a tyrant. Nobody buys a gun just in case the president is out to get them.

So the article discusses a nonexistent issue. I know technically what the 2nd amendment is for but it is not applicable at all to current reality.
actually, you are way off on this one. Look at the sales of guns after the first election of obama. Look at the sales of guns this black friday after his reelection. it overloaded the FBI computers 2 or 3 times that day.

You couldnt buy most types of ammo for nearly a year after obama was elected because they couldnt keep it on the shelf in many areas of the country.

There is a very large anti-centralized govt component in the US and they are some of the loudest gun rights advocates. Not just obama, but fear of the feds (mostly unwarranted) to the point where Utah has told the US govt that they are turning management of all public lands over to the state (yeah, right).

The point is that the fear of tyranny is alive and well in the US, however unfounded it may be.
boozehound is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-16-2012, 04:34 PM   #122
LJJ
Extra Cheese
 
LJJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 14,466
LJJ is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterLJJ is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterLJJ is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterLJJ is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterLJJ is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterLJJ is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterLJJ is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterLJJ is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterLJJ is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterLJJ is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterLJJ is considered a brilliant InsideHoops poster
Default Re: Man slashes 22 children near China school

Quote:
Originally Posted by boozehound
actually, you are way off on this one. Look at the sales of guns after the first election of obama. Look at the sales of guns this black friday after his reelection. it overloaded the FBI computers 2 or 3 times that day.

You couldnt buy most types of ammo for nearly a year after obama was elected because they couldnt keep it on the shelf in many areas of the country.

There is a very large anti-centralized govt component in the US and they are some of the loudest gun rights advocates. Not just obama, but fear of the feds (mostly unwarranted) to the point where Utah has told the US govt that they are turning management of all public lands over to the state (yeah, right).

The point is that the fear of tyranny is alive and well in the US, however unfounded it may be.

A large portion of Americans actually thinks it's a possibility the government turns into a tyranny, and that in such an event they would be able to overthrow the system and defeat the military if only they had access to small arms?

Only one reply is warranted to that: wat
LJJ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-16-2012, 04:38 PM   #123
boozehound
An uglier Lamar Doom
 
boozehound's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 23,965
boozehound is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableboozehound is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableboozehound is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableboozehound is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableboozehound is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableboozehound is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableboozehound is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableboozehound is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableboozehound is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableboozehound is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableboozehound is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginable
Default Re: Man slashes 22 children near China school

Quote:
Originally Posted by LJJ
A large portion of Americans actually thinks it's a possibility the government turns into a tyranny, and that in such an event they would be able to overthrow the system and defeat the military if only they had access to small arms?

Only one reply is warranted to that: wat
yes. At least a very vocal minority. It may only 1% of the country who are actual extremists (michigan militia, montana freemen, etc), but it is a much larger proportion who are extremely distrustful of their government (while benefiting from it) and are prepared for open insurrection.

Unfortunate, but true. Many working class repubs fall into this category. I have known them from Michigan to Texas to Utah and almost everywhere in between.
boozehound is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-16-2012, 04:42 PM   #124
Graviton
The Lost Ninja Turtle
 
Graviton's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 3,511
Graviton has an incredible reputation hereGraviton has an incredible reputation hereGraviton has an incredible reputation hereGraviton has an incredible reputation hereGraviton has an incredible reputation hereGraviton has an incredible reputation here
Default Re: Man slashes 22 children near China school

Quote:
Originally Posted by LJJ
A large portion of Americans actually thinks it's a possibility the government turns into a tyranny, and that in such an event they would be able to overthrow the system and defeat the military if only they had access to small arms?

Only one reply is warranted to that: wat
I don't think you understand. Who is in the military? The sons and daughters of American citizens. If the government turns into a tyranny, those individuals won't just mindlessly turn on their own relatives, friends and family. If anything, large part of the military would join the people, while the rest wouldn't care and will continue following a corrupt institution.
Graviton is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-16-2012, 04:45 PM   #125
DonDadda59
Lord High Executioner
 
DonDadda59's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: The Killing Fields
Posts: 10,198
DonDadda59 is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableDonDadda59 is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableDonDadda59 is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableDonDadda59 is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableDonDadda59 is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableDonDadda59 is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableDonDadda59 is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableDonDadda59 is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableDonDadda59 is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableDonDadda59 is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableDonDadda59 is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginable
Default Re: Man slashes 22 children near China school

Quote:
Originally Posted by LJJ
I clicked to through the link, but let's be honest here: Americans aren't so vehemently against gun control because they feel they need to protect themselves against a tyrant. Nobody buys a gun just in case the president is out to get them.

So the article discusses a nonexistent issue. I know technically what the 2nd amendment is for but it is not applicable at all to current reality.

You poor, naive soul.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5EYaW1HZhw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2jxsiDnmYA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGS44GlMjyw


^There's a LOT of people who believe this. As Boozehound pointed out, gun sales skyrocketed when Obama was first elected and then recently right after the election. A lot of gun toting nutcases are convinced they need their guns because it's the only thing stopping the communist Obama from imposing Martial Law and proclaiming himself king.
DonDadda59 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 12-16-2012, 04:59 PM   #126
LJJ
Extra Cheese
 
LJJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 14,466
LJJ is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterLJJ is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterLJJ is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterLJJ is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterLJJ is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterLJJ is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterLJJ is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterLJJ is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterLJJ is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterLJJ is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterLJJ is considered a brilliant InsideHoops poster
Default Re: Man slashes 22 children near China school

Quote:
Originally Posted by Graviton
I don't think you understand. Who is in the military? The sons and daughters of American citizens. If the government turns into a tyranny, those individuals won't just mindlessly turn on their own relatives, friends and family. If anything, large part of the military would join the people, while the rest wouldn't care and will continue following a corrupt institution.

Yeah that's what I'm saying. Just the idea that the military would turn on the vast majority of the US population is a ridiculous notion. But that is the only scenario in which a people's militia would be necessary.


But yes, I am shocked that apparently a lot of US citizens think this is viable. I already had you guys pegged as somewhat below average in terms of intelligence and sensibilities (as a population in general), but that is literally retarded.
LJJ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-16-2012, 05:09 PM   #127
Graviton
The Lost Ninja Turtle
 
Graviton's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 3,511
Graviton has an incredible reputation hereGraviton has an incredible reputation hereGraviton has an incredible reputation hereGraviton has an incredible reputation hereGraviton has an incredible reputation hereGraviton has an incredible reputation here
Default Re: Man slashes 22 children near China school

It's not really their fault. Most of those people grow up around that culture and are brainwashed to think government is evil and is against them. That allows private corporations to slowly milk them dry while the politicians break down every regulation put in place to actually help them. Fox news especially just uses fear and propaganda to appeal to the white masses and keep people from looking at real issues.

A simple google search will let you know who most of the Republicans are working for, it sure as hell isn't "the people.
Graviton is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-16-2012, 05:10 PM   #128
kNIOKAS
Medium Rare
 
kNIOKAS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 4,928
kNIOKAS is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginablekNIOKAS is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginablekNIOKAS is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginablekNIOKAS is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginablekNIOKAS is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginablekNIOKAS is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginablekNIOKAS is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginablekNIOKAS is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginablekNIOKAS is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginablekNIOKAS is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginablekNIOKAS is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginable
Default Re: Man slashes 22 children near China school

Quote:
Originally Posted by Graviton
I don't think you understand. Who is in the military? The sons and daughters of American citizens. If the government turns into a tyranny, those individuals won't just mindlessly turn on their own relatives, friends and family. If anything, large part of the military would join the people, while the rest wouldn't care and will continue following a corrupt institution.
Isn't that all of the military of a certain country have relatives in that certain country? Like, um, everywhere rest of the world?
Ever heard of a civil war?
kNIOKAS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-17-2012, 12:25 AM   #129
Simple Jack
Fredette About It
 
Simple Jack's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 3,291
Simple Jack has a near all-star reputation hereSimple Jack has a near all-star reputation hereSimple Jack has a near all-star reputation hereSimple Jack has a near all-star reputation hereSimple Jack has a near all-star reputation hereSimple Jack has a near all-star reputation here
Default Re: Man slashes 22 children near China school

I don't understand what possible logical argument can be given for not wanting to ban guns.

No one is coming into a movie theatre with a baseball bat or even a knife and killing 10+ people...it's nearly impossible. Nothing will stop violence as a whole but when such tools of violence are so readily available that you can buy them at the same place you buy basketball hoops and shoes, shit like this will continue to happen.

It's remarkable that two of the biggest killers of people in the US have the biggest lobbyist groups supporting them. (Tobacco and Firearms).

**** outta here with the backwards ass "but, it's my 2nd amendment right" bullshit. The only people who should be able to carry guns are police officers; no one else.

Last edited by Simple Jack : 12-17-2012 at 12:30 AM.
Simple Jack is offline   Reply With Quote
This NBA Basketball News Website Sponsored by:
Reply


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:09 AM.




NBA Basketball Forum Key Links:
InsideHoops Home
NBA Rumors
Basketball Blog
NBA Daily Recaps
NBA Videos
Fantasy Basketball
NBA Mock Draft
NBA Free Agents
All-Star Weekend
---
High School Basketball
Streetball
---
InsideHoops Twitter
Search Our Site













Powered by vBulletin Version 3.5.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd. Terms of Use/Service | Privacy Policy