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Old 12-09-2015, 10:48 AM   #1
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Default What exactly is unconstitutional about Trumps proposed Muslim ban?

I haven't read the constitution since high school government class, but I was under the impression that constitutional rights only applied to American citizens. Does everyone in the world have constitutional rights? Was there something specific in the constitution about letting anyone in who wants to come over? Because technically we'd be violating the constitution already....

Any constitution experts out there?
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Old 12-09-2015, 10:54 AM   #2
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Default Re: What exactly is unconstitutional about Trumps proposed Muslim ban?

Who is saying its unconstitutional? The majority of the grievances I've seen with his policy have more to do with "You are a colossal dickhead" and not "You're violating the Constitution."
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Old 12-09-2015, 11:22 AM   #3
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If you google "trumps plan unconstitutional" you will get about 10 pages of results with different opinions from NPR the Wall Street Journal New York Times Washington Post and legal scholars from universities around the country. Paul Ryan stood up and said its "un-American" whatever that means. It is currently the subject of major legal debate. My question for anyone here is, what is the "unconstitutional" argument? Is there some constitutional excerpt that can be interpreted in a way that makes Trumps plan unconstitutional? Or is it just rhetoric?
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Old 12-09-2015, 11:29 AM   #4
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Did you know Jimmy Carter put a ban on Iranians entering the United States?


Your move libtards.
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Old 12-09-2015, 11:38 AM   #5
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Default Re: What exactly is unconstitutional about Trumps proposed Muslim ban?

Not unconstitutional.


I side with the right but even I believe his proposal is poorly thought out. Although I do believe only the most desperate refugees should be allowed in. Mainly young women at risk of being enslaved, single mothers, gay and Christian peoples who face discrimination and persecution from their Muslim fundamentalist countrymen.
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Old 12-09-2015, 11:40 AM   #6
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Default Re: What exactly is unconstitutional about Trumps proposed Muslim ban?

What disqualifies him from being President as the democrats have said? I know Hillary has no business running for President. Talk about being disqualified, she should be in prison. The media is so freaking lopsided it's insane. All day they talk about Trump. Before they were going after Carson. If you're a threat they will do anything in their power to bring you down. Hillary goes unscathed.
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Old 12-09-2015, 11:41 AM   #7
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how do you even ban muslims??? what stopping them from lying about practicing the religion. Does that mean they need an understanding of another religion of philosophy??? and what if they revert to their muslim ways once they sneak in the back door????
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Default Re: What exactly is unconstitutional about Trumps proposed Muslim ban?

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Did you know Jimmy Carter put a ban on Iranians entering the United States?

Your move libtards.

And he then promptly became a one-term president, losing a race to a Republican who welcomed the Taliban to the White House.

But yeah, liberals are the ones screwing everything up.
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Old 12-09-2015, 11:51 AM   #9
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And he then promptly became a one-term president, losing a race to a Republican who welcomed the Taliban to the White House.
Why are you conflating Iranians with the Taliban?
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Old 12-09-2015, 11:57 AM   #10
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Default Re: What exactly is unconstitutional about Trumps proposed Muslim ban?

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Not unconstitutional.

I side with the right but even I believe his proposal is poorly thought out. Although I do believe only the most desperate refugees should be allowed in. Mainly young women at risk of being enslaved, single mothers, gay and Christian peoples who face discrimination and persecution from their Muslim fundamentalist countrymen.

ISIS has managed to kill more Muslims than they have any other single group. They're not just targeting Christians. Furthermore, what possible litmus test could our bumbling officials think up that would adequately separate one group from the other? I have zero faith that either party could figure that one out.
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Old 12-09-2015, 11:58 AM   #11
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Why are you conflating Iranians with the Taliban?
Same old deflecting
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Old 12-09-2015, 12:02 PM   #12
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how do you even ban muslims??? what stopping them from lying about practicing the religion. Does that mean they need an understanding of another religion of philosophy??? and what if they revert to their muslim ways once they sneak in the back door????
Their birth certificate.

Just remember for a second, these are not free countries we're talking about. They don't have the same concept of freedom of religion that we do. It's documented what religion you're born into over there and in many of these countries converting is illegal. Even in somewhat modern countries like Egypt, religion is on the birth certificate.
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Old 12-09-2015, 12:04 PM   #13
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Same old deflecting
YOU were deflecting. I brought up Carter banning Iranians and you randomly defected the conversation to Reagan meeting with the Taliban. You never did give your opinion on what Carter did.
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Old 12-09-2015, 12:08 PM   #14
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Did you know Jimmy Carter put a ban on Iranians entering the United States?


Your move libtards.
because nationality and religion are the same things
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Old 12-09-2015, 12:12 PM   #15
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because nationality and religion are the same things
Came to post the same exact shit.
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