Will Cleveland have the biggest drop off in wins in NBA history?

[IN-PAX-WE-TRUST]

Cavs are going to win 20-25 games this season. Last year they won 60+. They could see a drop off of 40 wins this season. What's the biggest drop in wins from one season to the next in NBA history?

[8BeastlyXOIAD]

What was the Bulls record after MJ/Pippen/Phil left?

[Stoney]

What was the Bulls record after MJ/Pippen/Phil left?

13-37, but as the record suggets, that was in the lockout- shortened 99 season so it's rather difficult to compare to a 82 game season, and remember that Rodman also left them that season

[Bigsmoke]

they gotta beat the 97 Spurs

[NauruDude]

They gotta win games to get to 20 wins, that is something they cant unless the other teams fields 3 or less players.

[jbryan1984]

13-37, but as the record suggets, that was in the lockout- shortened 99 season so it's rather difficult to compare to a 82 game season, and remember that Rodman also left them that season

You could go by percentages. That year, the Bulls finished with .260. The Cavs are on the verge for the worst record, I think even the Kings will sneak by them.

[IN-PAX-WE-TRUST]

You could go by percentages. That year, the Bulls finished with .260. The Cavs are on the verge for the worst record, I think even the Kings will sneak by them.

Wow. Bulls lost Pippen, Jordan, Rodman and Phil Jackson. Cavaliers are essentially the same team except Lebron. Lebron is amazing.

[guy]

Wow. Bulls lost Pippen, Jordan, Rodman and Phil Jackson. Cavaliers are essentially the same team except Lebron. Lebron is amazing.

Cavs also lost Z, Shaq, Delonte, and Mike Brown.

[asdf1990]

Cavs also lost Z, Shaq, Delonte, and Mike Brown.

Lol mike brown.

[IN-PAX-WE-TRUST]

Cavs also lost Z, Shaq, Delonte, and Mike Brown.

[Kurosawa0]

You add Z, Shaq, Delonte and Mike Brown to this team, they still wouldn't win 30 games.

Shaq would've already been hurt and checked out for the season by now.

[guy]

What's so funny? That's 3 of their best players and the coach that the team was accustomed to for 5 seasons. I wasn't trying to equate it with the Bulls dip and take anything away from Lebron. I'm just saying there were significant changes other then Lebron. A team goes through that many changes, there almost a completely different team is my point.

[konex]

Apart from the obvious void left by Bron, they are having a hard time adjusting to playing w/o the refs on their side every game..

[dankok8]

Quote:
Originally Posted by IN-PAX-WE-TRUST
Wow. Bulls lost Pippen, Jordan, Rodman and Phil Jackson. Cavaliers are essentially the same team except Lebron. Lebron is amazing.


Cavs also lost Z, Shaq, Delonte, and Mike Brown.

Pretty much just Lebron... Delonte barely played last year, Byron Scott > Mike Brown, and Shaq/Z are replaced with Varejao/Powe which is isnt much of a dropoff since Varejao is actually a great defender and Powe can actually move.

[ginobli2311]

What's so funny? That's 3 of their best players and the coach that the team was accustomed to for 5 seasons. I wasn't trying to equate it with the Bulls dip and take anything away from Lebron. I'm just saying there were significant changes other then Lebron. A team goes through that many changes, there almost a completely different team is my point.

its clearly not the exact same team.

however, jamison playing helps a lot this year. don't forget he hardly played in the regular season last year and he's a proven regular season guy.

z/shaq/delonte all missed significant time and the cavs didn't fall off at all. delonte was actually a huge distraction last year and provided very little.

some quick facts:

mo missed 13 games
shaq missed 30
delonte missed 18
z missed 22
gibson missed 26

jamison only played 25


knowledge.