So in the 80s

[JTatStarranch]

The Utah Jazz with two superstars in their prime and better role players never went to the finals. But in the 90s with the best players much older and worse role players they make it to the finals 2 years in a row

They got a little better in the 90's and even later 90's. Stockton got stronger, as did Malone. They all became better defensive players aswell.

Also Hornacek was money in the playoffs and they didn't have someone like that in the 80's. Hornacek was also a very clever and scrappy defender that would come up with timely steals and hustle plays. Good defender.

Also they had trouble with the Lakers and Blazers in the 80's. However those teams broke up in the 90's. It was players like Magic, and Drexler they struggled against.

But those 90's teams had good bench players like Antoine Carr and Shandon Anderson.

[97 bulls]

No one mentioned Frank Layden was their coach in the 80's and was known more as a comedian than a coach.*

This is a great point. Sloan taking the helm was a huge upgrade as well

[Xiao Yao You]

They got a little better in the 90's and even later 90's. Stockton got stronger, as did Malone. They all became better defensive players aswell.

Also Hornacek was money in the playoffs and they didn't have someone like that in the 80's. Hornacek was also a very clever and scrappy defender that would come up with timely steals and hustle plays. Good defender.

Hornacek was certainly the biggest difference.

Also they had trouble with the Lakers and Blazers in the 80's. However those teams broke up in the 90's. It was players like Magic, and Drexler they struggled against.

They matched up well against the Lakers. Magic couldn't go through the lane at will with Eaton standing there. Porter was the Jazz killer as far as the Blazers went.

But those 90's teams had good bench players like Antoine Carr and Shandon Anderson.

Carr was great the first year they had him. Kept him way too long as they often did. Letting Shandon Anderson get away hurt.

Sloan taking the helm was a huge upgrade as well

Yes but they stuck with him way too long.

[1987_Lakers]

NBA got weaker during the mid-late 90's due to expansion and weak talent from college. You could win 60 games with 2 All-Stars and a bunch of nobodies in that era, Miami did it in '97.

[JTatStarranch]

No,
Malone and Stockton became more seasoned and got a little better. Also Magic retired.


But the 96 Jazz went through some awesome teams like Sonics, Lakers, Rockets, Spurs etc.

[Rose'sACL]

NBA got weaker during the mid-late 90's due to expansion and weak talent from college. You could win 60 games with 2 All-Stars and a bunch of nobodies in that era, Miami did it in '97.

87 lakers had to get by 37 wins nuggets, 42 wins warriors and 39 wins sonics to get to the finals

[1987_Lakers]

87 lakers had to get by 37 wins nuggets, 42 wins warriors and 39 wins sonics to get to the finals

I know.

[97 bulls]

NBA got weaker during the mid-late 90's due to expansion and weak talent from college. You could win 60 games with 2 All-Stars and a bunch of nobodies in that era, Miami did it in '97.

Miami had two Hall of Famers playing at a high level, and a Hall of Fame coach. PJ Brown, Ike Austin, Dan Marjle, and Mashburn were all very good. Hell Brown played a huge in the 2008 Celtics run. Remember him dunking on Bryants head?

I understand you can't see past your agenda, but damn, How many hall of famers did the Bucks of the 80s have? If I'm not mistaken, they had the third best record of the 80s behind the Lakers and Celtics.

[1987_Lakers]

I believe the Spurs in '95 won 62 games with Robinson and a bunch of scrubs.

What a joke.

[deja vu]

I believe the Spurs in '95 won 62 games with Robinson and a bunch of scrubs.

What a joke.

Cavs won 66 games with LeBron and scrubs.

Also, the Spurs had Rodman back then.

[SHAQisGOAT]

Miami had two Hall of Famers playing at a high level, and a Hall of Fame coach. PJ Brown, Ike Austin, Dan Marjle, and Mashburn were all very good. Hell Brown played a huge in the 2008 Celtics run. Remember him dunking on Bryants head?

I understand you can't see past your agenda, but damn, How many hall of famers did the Bucks of the 80s have? If I'm not mistaken, they had the third best record of the 80s behind the Lakers and Celtics.

Those Bucks, at full force, could've very well been the best team in the mid-to-late 90s after the Bulls, and they would easily shit on a team like Miami
Sidney Moncrief, who's lonngg overdue at the HoF, is arguably the greatest defensive SG ever and was putting up like 21/6/5 during his prime years before injuries hit in 1986, Jordan praised the hell out of him with good reason. Peak/prime Marques Johnson was a great all-around SF, and looking at guys already in the HoF, he should receive solid consideration, underrated af. Bob Lanier was still valuable, and ofc a HoFer. Paul Pressey was a really good passer, played great D, was athletic, could score and rebound, overlooked. Terry Cummings was a beast before injuries. Ricky Pierce is one of the greatest 6th man ever. Junior Bridgeman was a legit 15+ ppg threat. They had really good spot-up shooters like Hodges or Dunleavy. They played as a team offensively and had great D. They had a HoF coach too... Those Bucks are underrated af and were unlucky in playing in the 80s EC.

[Roundball_Rock]

I believe the Spurs in '95 won 62 games with Robinson and a bunch of scrubs.

The Spurs had Rodman, Sean Elliot, and Avery Johnson in addition to Robinson. So essentially 3 all-star caliber players and a fourth good player.

[1987_Lakers]

Cavs won 66 games with LeBron and scrubs.

Also, the Spurs had Rodman back then.

They valued Rodman so much that they traded him for Will Purdue.

[JellyBean]

The Utah Jazz with two superstars in their prime and better role players never went to the finals. But in the 90s with the best players much older and worse role players they make it to the finals 2 years in a row

You make the statement like it was dirty or something for the Jazz to struggle in the 80s. You had a hot Dallas Mavericks team with Ronlado Blackman, Mark Aguirre, and Sam Perkins just to name of few on that team. Then you had Denver and Portland, along with the Lakers. Throw in the Golden State Warriors with Purvis Short (that brother was a rebounding machine), Chris Mullins, and Joe Barry Carroll. Bottom line, the Western Conference was brutal back in the 80s.

[Roundball_Rock]

They valued Rodman so much that they traded him for Will Purdue.

That is because he became a cancer on the team (Madonna!). He remained a top talent on the court, as he continued to show in Chicago during the threepeat. The 95' Spurs were comparable with other top teams of that era in terms of talent. One superstar, two other all-star caliber players and another good starter in Johnson.